Ojete Calor, the subnopop group he leads with Aníbal Gómez, blew up the Wizink Center last November. Today they perform at the Horteralia Festival held at Ifema, where they will give free rein to their irreverent lyrics.

You participate in 'Horteralia', what are you going to surprise us with? Well, we really trust that people who come to Horteralia are not looking for surprises but more of the same. It's a reduced concert because it's only an hour of performance. So what they are going to find is a condensation of the best we can give. You share the stage with Karina, Marlène Mourreau and Leonardo Dantés... What a poster, isn't it? Well, it's an interesting squad. Camilo Sesto has passed through Horteralia and I would have loved to share the stage with him. This festival started like so many things that have to do with subnopop, like a joke that has suddenly gotten out of hand. Like Ojete Calor itself.What happened to Ojete Calor? An 'underground' group for a cult minority that, suddenly, fills the WiZink compound and bursts itWell, frankly, we are as surprised as you are. Ojete Calor was born as an absolute joke. In fact, it is born without me being aware that they were being born. One day I was with Aníbal and other friends in the mythical place, Doña Pepita, and we were thinking about what would be the best name a group could have. And all of a sudden, we put those two disjointed words together because it's not hot eyelet but heat eye, a new mantra. We were very amused.And what happened next? A few days later, Aníbal surprises me and says: "Hey, I have a base for a song by Ojete Calor". And I thought, "Oh, we have a serious group!" We showed up at the festivities of Hannibal's village and sang a song. It was a pitiful and embarrassing performance. We had the base recorded on a cd, but the CD jumped and finished prematurely. It was a delirious thing, but we were in family, everything was at home and it didn't matter. Among the audience was Joaquín Reyes and he asked us to go and perform at the Fiestaca Chanante. And then the director of another Paramount Comedy show asked us to come and sing on his show. And then Jordi Costa invited us to participate in a festival and then they called us from another and, suddenly... We had a record. Until you get to WiZink and join Ana Belén, Rocío Carrasco, Tino de Parchís, Loles León, Yolanda Ramos showing a breast... Lie. She showed both breasts. Tickets started selling out and suddenly we had 12,000 people there waiting. But organizing it was pretty fucked up. How did the idea of bringing together such disparate people come about? We wanted to do something special and for the guests to surprise even ourselves. We didn't want it to be people from the environment. So we wrote in a list a handful of names that surprised us a lot. And we started with the most difficult person of all, to tell us no. It was Rocío Carrasco, who has no relationship with us and we don't know her at all. It is unheard of that he comes to sing at a concert of a group called Ojete Calor. It fascinated us as a pop phenomenon. And, to our surprise, he said yes. Coordinate countless groups of people. In the WiZink, the sound and lighting equipment must be worn by you; The stage has to be designed and assembled by you... It's crazy. In short, it was a very hard chaos. And, suddenly, in the final stretch, when you already think that nothing can go wrong, we fell one of the fattest guests. In front of the recorder, no. And the day before the concert, when it seems that nothing can go wrong, Ana Belén makes a video call and tells us that she had been filming and that she had lost her voice. Then, when Ana calls you and you see her aphonic and unable to speak, my legs tremble because Ana was the main course. And I want to die. But Ana Belén says she wants to be there and that she has thought that we will do playback. So, I say we're going to tell the public openly because people wanted her to be there. José Corbacho maintains that you are the best DJ in the world, even, above, David Guetta.Well, I really enjoy playing music when I see that people enjoy it as much as I do. Yes, I make concessions depending on where I am, but always within limitsDo DJs hate being asked for songs? Yes, of course. In most cases people come to ask you for a topic that does not correspond at all to the session you are doing. Imagine that I have put Marisol, then Las Grecas and Nino Bravo. Then someone comes along, usually with little education, and says, "Hey, don't you have any U2?" Yes, I have U2, but I'm not going to put it on. It doesn't stick anything. Although I have to tell you that for me the most fun is eclecticism. I mean, I've given you a false example, actually, because I would never play Marisol, Nino Bravo and Las Grecas right away. I would play Marisol and then AC/DC. Then I would play Unchained Melody, the Ghost song, and then Nirvana. And then, I put Joselito and Frank Sinatra.You have composed a song called 'Extremism Evil'. Have you switched to the protest song? Actually, our first steps with the protest song were a theme that was on the first album called Politics, which under the prism of subnopop, does not speak at all about politics. It is a hodgepodge of concepts that, in the end, is what makes it more funny. We make most of the songs possessed by the spirit of a rather uninformed teenager with typical quinceañera problems. Has the public always laughed at you or has it been difficult for you to achieve it? What I find difficult is to be taken seriously. It's something someone called Leslie Nielsen syndrome. Do you know who he is? He was the white-haired actor who played the Grab It as You Can movies. Ah, I know who he is. He was a reference of comedy. I was lucky enough to act with him in Spanish Movie. Leslie Nielsen syndrome comes to say that if he had had a car accident and went out to ask for help on the road saying: "Please, my wife is in a pot engulfed in flames." People would have said, "Fuck, I'm splitting with you!" Poor man. I, however, do not consider myself a comedian or a humorist. Yes, Ojete Calor has humor in the lyrics, but I have never done stand up. When I have participated in sketches or comedy films, I have read a text that others have written. I, as a rule, behind the cameras, am prone to pessimism, depression and compulsion. I am a born collector very impatient and inflexible. I have a very visceral sense of what I consider justice. I buy a lot on websites collecting second-hand items. I buy a comic strip from 100 years ago, which costs one euro. It's very cheap. In the description it is specified that it is in good condition and it arrives at home and it turns out that it is missing one page. Then, my head explodes. You get a dislike. It's not that I get upset, it's that, suddenly, I have a particular crusade that clouds every other aspect of my life and prevents me from sleeping at night and thinking clearly about something other than that a person has sent me an item that said it was in good condition and, however, it was incomplete. That has taken me weeks of angry struggle to call the page, put e-mails, do harassment and takedown and I have managed to get the euro back. Quite a few more than I would have liked. What's going on? I am becoming more selective with purchases. So, many times the seller sends me to the shit because before buying an item I ask him a questionnaire as if I were about to hire him as a senior executive of my company: Is he painted, is he broken, is he missing pages, has he verified that the numbering of the pages is correlative, does he have rust stains or folds? The buyer ends up exhausted. In many cases they send me to shit. Nothing happens because sending me to the fuck is a legal option, but selling me an item that is advertised in good condition and then is not, is not. Lately people are laughing less and less well. I think it's a global trend and that more and more people feel that their right to be offended is above your right to make a joke. And this is something that not only do I not share, but it also seems to me to be flagrantly false. Let's see, what we have to do is assume that you have a perfect right to have a joke not amused by you, but that does not mean that the joke is offensive, it means that the joke offends you. The sense of humor, like social sensitivity, is changing. And I'm very radical in that. I believe that jokes can be made with abuse, pedophilia and terrorism. The function of a joke is to make you laugh. One of the possible mechanisms to make you laugh is to say something that you and I already know by social consensus that is a lie, is and is crazy. But it's getting harder and harder to make jokes about some topics. It is very legitimate for you to feel offended, but what I find horrible is that it has professional or criminal consequences for people who make certain jokes. And I am radically against it and I find it in all political sectors. Even though I feel more identified with the left, lately I see that the greatest radicalism when it comes to inhibiting the themes that can be used in jokes come, however, from a certain sector of the left. But the right is not spared. It seems very unfair to me when we criticize from a position of superiority the humor that was done before, because now we consider it sexist, xenophobic or homophobic. They were the product of an era. I don't know how many times I've had to apologize Millán Salcedo for the joke "my husband my hit". Does he really have to apologize and not the 40 million people who laughed? That joke was not the trigger for battered women but a consequence. Now even Roald Dahl's books are being rewritten.That the first thing that caused me is to run to the nearest bookstore to buy the originals. Such behaviors sensitize and idiotize. I think I can read a book by Roald Dahl and make my own assessment without a Mongolian heir - and here Mongolian I say this with all the sense of political incorrectness that I can carry on the term - has decided that people are not going to distinguish what has aged badly. Young people now have political correctness in their DNA. If I say fat, my son scolds me. Honestly, I think that the only thing this is going to provoke in a later generation is a pendulum movement. And just as everything is now sensitive material and has to be politically correct, the next generation will make Auschwitz the musical and issue Nazi proclamations. You recently published a post-mortem photo book. Don't mind seeing the images of the dead? Depends on. The fact that they are old photographs creates a layer of distance for me that allows me to see them as artistic objects loaded with a deep feeling of affection. I find it a fascinating subject. That does not mean that the death of the people I have met causes me a tremendous rejection. I remember seeing three dead people in my life: a friend who committed suicide, my father and an uncle. And it's very unpleasant because they never seem asleep. It's a lie. It's true. In my father's case, when I arrived at the hospital, he had been dead for half an hour. And that was no longer my father. It had completely changed. The blood goes down and, within minutes, your face is absolutely livid. Your white face is someone else's, because suddenly gestures begin to appear that are concealed by the pink tone that blood gives us. I get lost. What do you mean? To the legacy of how many people do we carry? Man, I have an important backpack. In the end, I understand life as a thread. You are a product of your time. I, for example, always got along very badly with my father. In fact, we spent a long time about ten years without talking to each other. I've always gotten along very badly with him. My father was a very severe person, of a marked conservative character, very strict and, above all, very moody. He was a person who would burst out right away. He was very inflexible, mind you. And then I've inherited all that. And, finally, what do you think of the tourism boom in Madrid? There are always many tourists in Madrid. What I find a drama is that the people of Madrid cannot live wherever they want in the city. I think the price of housing is nonsense and should be regulated. Ayuso wants to turn Madrid into the New Miami. Do you think it's a good idea? What do you mean? Attract a lot of Latino investors and luxury tourism. For me, luxury tourism is something to run away from. I'm very urban. New York and London were famous in their day for being capitals where there were many bookstores, especially second-hand. But unfortunately, Charing Cross Road, which was London's mythical street of old bookshops, is a shadow. There should be one or two left. That is what mass tourism brings. Shops that are not trendy and are not luxury disappear because they can not compete. That destroys me and makes me very sad, of course. Yes, it is a pity. It is a continuous conflict between the interests of one and the other. Before, a middle-class person could buy a car and a house. Now, who can buy a house and a car with a job and an average salary? Do we really need luxury tourism the most? There will beIen say they leave money, but for whom? Is that money really shared?

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