What do you think of the term "stretching operation", Mr. Trittin?

Helen Bubrowski

Political correspondent in Berlin.

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Eckhart Lohse

Head of the parliamentary editorial office in Berlin.

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It's an Orwellian euphemism.

In truth, it's a lifetime extension because, beyond the statutory December 31st, it's trying to operate nuclear power plants (NPPs) whose safety reviews are more than three years overdue.

However, more and more greens can make friends with the stretching operation.

You can't lump things together.

Just because we have a gas crisis doesn't mean we have an electricity crisis.

It's about regional brownouts, not blackouts, i.e. about possible voltage drops in the power grid, not about its collapse.

If there is a threat of brownouts in Bavaria due to the blockade of renewables and lines, there are various ways of dealing with it.

You can fire up the specially created "Seehofer power plants", which are not used now for cost reasons.

It is also about intelligent load management - up to shutting down by the hour for large load recipients.

At the end of July you called demands to keep nuclear power plants online longer a campaign.

Are you sticking with it?

Of course it's a campaign.

We are currently experiencing the end of nuclear energy globally.

That is exactly the question.

No, that's how it is.

Nuclear power creates – see France – no security of supply.

The reactors are too old - and even the newer nuclear power plants can no longer be cooled as a result of the climate crisis.

Nuclear power endangers security in the event of war – as can be seen in Ukraine.

In case of doubt, atomic bombs do not have to be used to trigger a nuclear catastrophe.

And nuclear power pays off so little that even nuclear companies like Engie in Belgium don't want to continue operating the reactors.

The kilowatt hour from a new nuclear power plant is more than three times as expensive as from wind turbines.

Would you bet that there will be no stretching?

I'm not a player.

I'm just saying very calmly: there is a coalition agreement not to do that.

If you want to change the Atomic Energy Act, you have to change the coalition agreement – ​​and a party conference will have to do that.

Experts say that for technical reasons the decision cannot be postponed much longer.

So a special party conference?

I have the impression that the inclination of our federal executive to convene special party conferences is not very great.

When people freeze in winter, they will dump their frustration on the Greens.

Can you afford this open flank?

We must not tell people untruths and symbolically lull them into a false sense of security.

Even if the nuclear power plants that have already been shut down were put back into operation, that would not change anything about the gas shortage for industry and homes.

We have a gas problem.

And by the way, the floating LNG terminals won't help much this winter either.

Unfortunately, there is no quick substitute on the world market for the gas that we have previously obtained from Russia.

The shock of the Ukraine war seems to be making the unthinkable possible.

The Greens voted for a special fund for upgrading the Bundeswehr.

Are they still a peace party?

We are a peace party.

And we always thought the debt brake was wrong.

The 100 billion is a good way to avoid it.

By ideally investing in armor?