[Explanation] Bai Juyi's poems ranked first among the Tang Dynasty poets, but his influence did not enter the top ten; the most famous poems in the Song Dynasty were not Su Shi and Xin Qiji but Zhou Bangyan; the comprehensive influence index shows that Du Fu is higher than Li Bai , Xin Qiji is stronger than Su Shi... Using big data to display and verify Tang poetry and Song poetry, the conclusion is beyond the imagination of many people.

  Tang poetry and Song Ci are two peaks in the history of Chinese literature, but can the Tang poetry and Song Ci, which belong to the category of aesthetics, be interpreted with big data?

What new discoveries have been made in the study of Tang poetry and Song poetry by big data, and what are the limitations?

Wang Zhaopeng, chair professor of liberal arts at Sichuan University and president of the Chinese Ciology Research Association, recently accepted an exclusive interview with China News Agency "East and West Questions" and made an in-depth interpretation.

  [Subtitles] From the perspective of big data, have Tang poetry and Song poetry reached an unprecedented height in the history of Chinese literature?

What are the characteristics of each?

  [Concurrent] Wang Zhaopeng, chair professor of liberal arts at Sichuan University and president of the Chinese Ci Studies Association

  Tang poetry and Song poetry are not only large in quantity, but also of high quality. The best and most influential poets in the history of Chinese poetry are basically produced in the Tang and Song dynasties.

(Measuring) the development of literature (works) is a very important aspect, but the most important thing is to have fine works. With such outstanding, outstanding and great poets and lyricists, it can be said that Chinese history has produced The number of great poets, outstanding poets, and lyricists is the most in the Tang and Song dynasties.

  [Subtitles] Tang poetry and Song poetry belong to the category of aesthetics. Why did you think of using big data to analyze Tang poetry and Song poetry?

  [Concurrent] Wang Zhaopeng, chair professor of liberal arts at Sichuan University and president of the Chinese Ci Studies Association

  When I read (modern) quantitative history at the time, I found that the study of history can use data, and data can be used to measure history, and ancient literature also (belongs to) a big history (category).

Since history can be measured, why can't our literature be measured?

A very important reason I use quantitative analysis method to analyze is that you like this piece of work, I like that piece of work, you say he has a big influence, he says he has a big influence, who has the biggest influence, let's find one The (largest) common denominator, we analyze and keep it constant through data. I said that Xin Qiji's influence is greater than Su Shi's, and Du Fu's influence is greater than Li Bai's. This is only a conclusion drawn from my data, not my personal opinion.

  With the existing data, it is still difficult to accurately measure the artistic value of this work, but I can use big data to measure the influence of this work, and I can measure which work is the most popular among the public and the most popular. The welcome of future readers, we can measure this.

  [Subtitles] How did you come up with your top ten Tang Poems, Song Poems, Poets, and Poets?

  [Concurrent] Wang Zhaopeng, chair professor of liberal arts at Sichuan University and president of the Chinese Ci Studies Association

  (Ranking) Based on our data on three aspects, the impact of a poet is the impact on later poets.

Then we (we) see which poets are exemplary poets, and which poetic works are exemplary works, which are learned and imitated most by later generations.

The second aspect is which ones are most valued by later generations (poetry critics), how many times they have been evaluated, and how high their reputation is.

The third type of data is through anthologies. Just like our ordinary readers today, we need to understand that the interpretation of Tang, Tang and Song poetry is actually based on anthologies. We measure the influence of a work by the selection rate of the anthologies.

  [Subtitles] From the perspective of big data, who has the most works in Tang poetry and Song poetry?

Are poets and lyricists with a large volume of works influential and well-known?

  [Concurrent] Wang Zhaopeng, chair professor of liberal arts at Sichuan University and president of the Chinese Ci Studies Association

  In Tang poetry, Li Bai and Du Fu have the greatest influence. Their two works are ranked second and third respectively. The highest volume of works is Bai Juyi, but Bai Juyi's influence is not ranked first.

In Song Poetry, Xin Qiji's works are number one, so his influence is also number one. Su Shi's works are number two, and his influence is also number two. This is what the data tells me. Big data presents us with such a Happening.

Of course, with the increase in data in the future, will this perception change?

That's also possible.

The poetry that we are familiar with today is not necessarily considered by the ancients to be the best, and that is a very important purpose for me to make this list, which is to measure a change in the influence of a poem.

Through this data, it can specifically show which song is the most influential when.

  Ho Meikun reports from Chengdu, Sichuan

Responsible editor: [Li Ji]