After the American presidential election in November 2020, according to then-Attorney General William Barr, it was not possible to have a reasonable conversation with then-President Donald Trump.
At the second public hearing of the investigative committee into the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021, video recordings of an interview with Barr were shown again on Monday.
"I felt like it was possible to reason with the president before the election," Barr said.
After the presidential election, however, Trump stopped listening.
"I was a little demoralized because I was like, boy, if he really believes this stuff, he's lost touch with reality," Barr said of Trump's voter fraud allegations.
Barr called the claims "complete bullshit" and "stupid."
"I told him that the stuff his people are dishing out to the public is bullshit.
I mean the allegations of cheating were bullshit.
And, you know, he was upset about it.”
Barr also explained that Trump had already spoken of voter fraud on election night - at a time when there could not have been any evidence of it.
Already in the first public hearing, video recordings of a Barr questioning were shown, in which Barr had incriminated Trump.
Trump claims to this day without any evidence that he was deprived of victory in the 2020 presidential election by electoral fraud.
For weeks he tried to use the most questionable methods to subsequently overturn Biden's election victory.
Resistance to the outcome of the election culminated in the attack on the Capitol, which the committee is working on.