Jedet

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Girona, 1992. Actress, singer,

influencer

, trans icon... After releasing her new song,

Veneno dulce

, she welcomes us in the presidential suite of the luxury hotel where she was a waitress not so long ago.

"This is just the beginning," she warns.

It has all the appearance of being true.

Does the speed that your life has taken give you vertigo?


Flipo, I'm not going to lie to you.

But although from the outside it seems that everything is sudden, the truth is that for me it has not been something sudden, everything has been very progressive.

I have been working little by little like a little ant and, suddenly, I have established myself.

But since I am very ambitious, I still feel that the point where I find myself is only the beginning of what is yet to come, that I am starting and I have to continue building, building and building.

That ambition makes you give everything: singer, writer, influencer, activist...


I am not an activist.

I think that calling myself an activist detracts from those who really are.

I live my life in a totally free way, I live it in the public eye and if I can help someone with it, great, but it's not my goal.

Carla Antonelli is an activist, not me.

Now that you have more power to choose, do you have any idea to focus on one thing?

No. It is that in Spain we are not advanced in that.

You look at Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lopez or Barbara Streisand and they are women who have done everything.

Why do just one thing when I can do them all?

I have an artistic concern to experiment in all these disciplines and I need to do it.

In fact, as a singer I am independent and the album is financed by me.

Thus, with what we earn, I then invest in experimenting in other disciplines.

I am free to try everything because I do not owe anyone.

It is true that you see any artist in an American 'late show' and she dances as she sings as she juggles.


Exactly, but not here.

Now I have brought out my makeup line, I take out a song, an album, a movie, a book... And all the time you ask me what I would choose, but I don't see Jimmy Kimmel telling Lady Gaga to focus on acting or in singing

I want to be successful in everything, I am being and I will continue like this.

Receiving an award as mainstream as the Ondas [best actress for 'Veneno'], what does it mean?

The awards are recognition of your work and that is wonderful, so I hope to receive many more, but recently I met a great actress from this country who has many awards and she told me that she had to ask for a loan.

So what do you do with a prize?

Do you go to the supermarket and say: "Give me half a kilo of tomatoes, I have a prize"?

The prize was a very nice reward, but my goal is to be able to work all my life.

As mundane as that.

Are you worried that success will love you?


I consider that right now I am in a fairly successful period and, to the despair of my team, not even God has managed to tame me, because if that were the case, I would not continue to get into so much trouble.

The people around me keep asking me to slow down a bit and control myself a bit while still being me, but I don't listen to them because I think that if my life and my career have interested me, it's because I'm spontaneous and natural.

Why am I going to change the formula if this works for me?

You have spoken many times in networks about your mental health.

Isn't it activism?

Neither, but a certain responsibility because I know that many people follow me.

We are at a time when we are beginning to realize that showing ourselves imperfect and opening up can have a positive impact on those who listen to us.

I don't want to be a role model for anyone or anything, but I've always talked about my mental health because I'm not a liar.

If I'm in a bad time, I make it clear.

I share it just as I like to share my processes, my progress and my successes.

Just as Ondas is the recognition of a career of many years in the shadows, I am also psychologically and emotionally proud of the woman I have become.

To get here I've been through a lot of shit and also through a lot of therapy.

Why shouldn't I share it the same way I share that I've won an award?

Well, we are in the era of posturing.

Real lives are rarely shown on networks.

It is true, but I have never wanted to sell a perfect life and I think that is what has made people connect with me.

Who loves me loves me imperfect.

There is a tendency to idealize public figures, they have to be perfect and white brands, but I am me and not the product of others, so I decide to be open and real... within what is possible.

I also keep a lot to myself because I've found that the sharper the knives get, the deeper they stick into you.

"I want to stop being sexy", you wrote recently.

Do you feel objectified?

Of course.

In industry, on the street and in nightclubs.

That's why, when I saw that it was affecting me too much, I said: "No, I'm going to take the reins and I'm going to do what comes out of the pussy."

To dress as I want, wear heels when I feel like it and flat shoes when I feel like it, go to a photo shoot without makeup or with three layers of makeup if I feel like it.

I am not here to please a society just so that people feel more comfortable seeing me and can accept me.

Because if I accept myself, what do I care if the person in front of me doesn't?

We have been with this since Bibiana Fernández: she accepts trans women more if she is beautiful.

It is that there is no color.

Rather than asking you to be good enough to accept you, they demand it of you: "Since you are going to live among us and you ask me to respect you, at least be as feminine as possible, as beautiful as possible, as clean as possible and as correct as possible. ".

And no, my love, I do not ask you to respect me, you have to respect me because I have rights and, although certain people want us to lose them, we are still going to conquer many more.

In the war with the more traditional feminists, whom they accuse of being transphobic, isn't a common enemy on both sides being played into the game?

Not at all.

To begin with, I believe that even trans women are sometimes transphobic.

Just like there are macho women.

As they educate you and live in society, in the end you don't realize it and you sin from it.

Can a six or seven year old know that he is in the wrong body?

Of course.

When a trans girl lives in the body of a boy, she knows it perfectly.

Why didn't you think at that age if you were a boy or a girl?

Well, I was tormented every day of my fucking life and I wanted to die because I didn't understand why I was alive and had to be in the world as a child and unable to be like my cousin, which is what I was.

Do you think you were not clear about it as a child?

Of course you have it, what happens is that if it coincides with what you are, you don't even think about it.

What should be the role of parents in such a situation?


Support and understand, nothing more.

A father knows what's up.

My mother has told me thousands of times: she regrets not having made things easier for me before and I have not been able to live a peaceful adolescence as a woman.

She weighs her down to this day and, sometimes, she cries because she feels that she has screwed up my life and, it is true, in part she has screwed up my life.

Unintentionally, but as part of a system.

My life has been screwed up by ignorance, lack of knowledge and the fact that there was no law that would protect me, that would give a name to what I was and that would help me to be able to be.

That I do not agree with the new trans law 100%?

No, I'm not because I think it makes women like me invisible in some ways.

But it is good that it exists, it was necessary.

Then everything can be modified, but in the end there is a base from which we can sit down and talk,


In what sense do you think it makes trans women invisible?


The problem with the law is that it puts us all in the same bag.

A non-binary person is not physically the same as me, who has completed a transition from man to woman and if I am binary, I identify as a woman, live as a woman and suffer as a woman from physical and verbal aggression, sexualization, machismo, that they objectify you, that it is more difficult for you to work, etc.

On the other hand, a person who feels like a woman but is physically a man is having some privileges, because she is surely not afraid of the street and I am.

That's what I mean.

They are not the same as me, just as a trans woman is not the same as a woman.

And nothing happens, there are fish with stripes, fish with spots and they are all fish.

To say that a trans woman is not the same as a woman is delicate.


The whole world is going to be on me, but it's true.

What I mean by this?

I am not going to know, for example, what it means to live an adolescence as a woman or to have a period.

Like, for example, I will never understand what it is to be a woman of color and the particular problems that it implies.

For their part, women cannot understand what it is like to put yourself through hours of surgery because what you see in the mirror does not correspond to what you feel you are.

Nor the courage required to decide that you are going to undergo some very traumatic and painful surgeries in order to live in peace with yourself.

And they don't live transphobia either.

So we are not the same, it is evident.

And trans women are very uncomfortable with what I am saying, but, loves, we are not the same and nothing happens.

Nothing happens because no one is less than anyone.

We are women and trans women.

Fish with polka dots, fish with stripes, fish.

End. And that we assume that we are not the same is going to help us, because we will continue fighting for our rights and they will fight for some things that do not involve us, although we always have a common base.

Do you share the cancellation of critical feminists with the trans movement like JK Rowling?

There are people who deserve to be canceled because they do harm to society.

They always justify themselves the same: "It's that my freedom of expression...".

Very well, beautiful, but your freedom ends where someone else's begins and if what you are saying is endangering my physical or emotional integrity and my safety, you can stick your opinion in your pussy, whether you are JK Rowling or my neighbor.

If you have such a powerful voice and you use it to make a girl feel like she is a monster, you are harmful and deserve to be canceled.

If you're not doing good, shut the fuck up.

You are very Catholic, hasn't your faith clashed with your Church?


No, because I believe in God and not in the Church.

I am very Catholic and the Church can suck my foot.

I love churches, I love religious symbolism and I love going to mass.

God is the one who has made me born as I am, that I face the things that I have had to face and that today I have the strength that I have and be the woman that I am.

I thank God every day for being born as I am.

If they gave me the opportunity to be born again and be directly a woman, I would say no.

Because God had his plans for me and they were these.

Has the suffering compensated you?


Clear.

God knows how he does things with him.


The thing about the Church sucking your foot is quite literal, because in your last video you get involved with a priest.

If true.

I fuck a priest, I accept it.

In the video, the priest falls in love with me, falls for sin and bites the apple, but in the end he dies.

They treat us trans women as if we were sin, they hide us, men want to be with us, but not in public.

That's what the video talks about: in this society, the man who is brave and dares to be with us always ends badly.

My ex-partner had to put up with being called a fagot 24 hours a day and having her family stop talking about her because they see us as men.

For many people, you are never really a woman.

I also tell you: I don't give a damn.

I know what I am and in my circle I am really loved and accepted, but on an emotional level it is not easy because men are usually cowards and to be with a woman like me you have to be very brave.

At least they haven't made a mess for you with the video like C. Tangana for his in the cathedral of Toledo.


Nothing, notice that the right loves me very much.

And I am on the left, you can also make that very clear, but I feel super loved and totally accepted by many conservative people.

And it's not that I'm super correct and easy to love, that I get into some tremendous scrubs, but they see an aunt who has it very well and she's an artist.

We will be doing something right, because progress is being made.


It's okay to destroy clichés.


I love it, because there are so many about me that... For example, people think I'm super modern and nothing.

I am very liberal, but very traditional.

Another topic is that in big cities we are more open, but you didn't feel homophobia until you got to Madrid.


Now I would say

lgtbiphobia

, but it's true.

In my town I never felt anything like that and it was coming to Madrid and constantly.

I still feel scared here and I never go home alone at night, for example.

And that I have a privileged position, I have the car waiting at my door, I go, I come back and my life is divine.

But my reality is not that of the rest and I never forget that because I do not come from a rich family.

Therefore, if I can use my voice to continue to focus on this, I will always do it.

What future do you dream of?


My goal is to die being remembered as a great folklorist, like a Sara Montiel, with all the love of my queers and my women.

And may they bring me many red roses to the grave.

That is what I want.

And let them say: "Look, she got into gardens, the poor thing, because she didn't have that restraint and she wasn't very formal, but in some way she made the world a little better for those who came later. And she was good, she had a good heart ".

That's what I want.


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