“Wait, you make all this trip, you cross several countries to join the “Châm” because you were convinced that it was your mission, you arrive there and you do… nothing?

“President Jean-Louis Périès has been asking questions and answers for a good hour and can no longer hide his exasperation with the accused standing in the box.

Via the interpreter or sometimes in French, Muhammad Usman, shaved head, black long-sleeved polo shirt, assures that he discovered the Islamic State (IS) group via a certain "Abu Obeida", who contacted him on the internet to teach him 'true Islam' and 'twist his brain' into joining ISIS.

Despite the insistence of the court, he maintains that before that he "never" spent ten years in a Pakistani jihadist group close to Al-Qaeda, as assured by the services of information from his country.

" It's wrong.

»

Painfully, the court made him return to his journey between Pakistan and Syria, "in the summer of 2015", according to him, much earlier according to the prosecution.

Indeed, he did indeed make this journey described by the investigators as "totally useless", crossing Turkey up and down, mainly on foot.

Or "35 hours of walking a day", notes the president, "it seems a bit complicated".

Once there, in Syria as in Iraq, the accused then assures us that he has done "nothing".

“It was indeed Daesh who received you, do we agree?

In 2015 they have conflicts all over the place, in Fallujah, in Aleppo, in Raqqa, that's why they bring in people, fighters.

And you, you are brought from Pakistan just to read the Koran and go to the mosque, for three weeks?

“Blows the president, disillusioned.

" Why you ?

»

"I was doing what I was told to do," replied the accused limply. The court gives up, and moves on to the "mission" which, according to the prosecution, will finally be entrusted to him in Raqqa: participating in a suicide attack in France, in a group composed of one of his co-defendants and the two Iraqis who will be blown up at the Stade de France. The group was separated on the migrant route, when Muhammad Usman and Algerian Adel Haddadi were arrested and detained in Greece for a month, which would have prevented them from joining the other commandos in time.

" Why you ? Knowing that you did not train, supposedly, that you did not participate in any battle? “, insists the court. At the tip of his lips, the accused recognizes - for the first time - training with the Kalashnikov for "one or two days" in Raqqa. "So there was in the mission the use of a Kalashnikov", tries President Périès. “I don't know, I didn't have the details,” replies the accused. Not the detail of the objectives, is that it? " Yes. Or how to proceed? “They just told me that when I get there they will tell me. »

Muhammad Usman says he discovered "the scale" of the attacks in Austria, where he was arrested in December 2015. "I didn't know it was going to happen like this, I was so shocked", says the one who just wanted a “revenge” for the French bombardments on Syrian civilians.

“I had no idea it would be such a big attack.

When I saw, I was surprised so I abandoned the mission.

"What is a big attack compared to a small one?"

asks the president.

“The number of dead, wounded?

“Yes,” Muhammad Usman replies.

"And up to what number of deaths you could have agreed to participate?"

Head lowered, the accused evades again.

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