The SVT series "The train to Hanoi - life after the debate" is on paper about the politicians' journey to Hanoi, but in reality the program is about taking the step from politics to the everyday life that awaits afterwards, according to Sjöstedt.
As party leaders, Sjöstedt and Kinberg Batra did not have much in common, but during the journey they found common ground, Sjöstedt says.
- We have different ways of looking at politics and the world.
But just this journey to step down, to do something else and how it is, she knew that.
She had done the same thing, albeit in a different way.
She had also experienced what it was like when the phone stopped ringing, he says in Morgonstudion.
Hear Jonas Sjöstedt talk about the journey in the clip above. "The train to Hanoi - life after the debate" can be seen on SVT Play from Sunday 23 January.