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■ Broadcast: SBS Kim Tae-hyun's Political Show (FM 103.5MHz 9:05 ~ 11:00)


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: Kim Tae-hyun Attorney


■ Broadcast Date: October 27, 2021 (Wednesday)


■ Appearance: Park Jumin, Democratic Party Member



- Candidate Lee Jae-myung, President Meeting with


Lee Nak-yeon

is a natural process

- Much of the sediment in the election process has been resolved


- It is possible to differentiate between the Democratic Party team and the Moon administration at the same time


- Rejection of Son Jun-seong... Investigations regret vs warrant charges for the investigation is inevitable


- dismissed arrest warrants, lest gimung jeongjeomsik investigation deodyeo worried


- hwangmuseong transcripts, news itself is distorted ... Recruitment issue, not forced resignation


- Wolseong nuclear power plant investigation, Board of Audit and Inspection, People's Power Prosecution...



Triangle

Connection Suspicion

▷Kim Tae-hyun: You are with Kim Tae-hyun's political show. It's Wednesday Part 3 Politics FLEX. Today (27th), Rep. Park Jumin of the Democratic Party of Korea appeared. Hello.



▶Park Jumin: Hello.



▷Kim Taehyun: I can't help but ask this. You met President Moon Jae-in and candidate Lee Jae-myung. But once in the Blue House, the opposition will criticize this, so it was also interpreted by the National Election Commission. This turned out to be no problem. How did you see it yesterday? 50 minutes of chatting.



▶Jinmin Park: We saw it as a natural procedure and process. Since I became a presidential candidate for the Democratic Party, I thought it was natural to meet the current President of the Democratic Party, so I prepared it and I think he talked a lot.



▷Kim Tae-Hyun: But if you look ahead, President Lee Myung-bak, former President Park Geun-hye, and then-candidate Park Geun-hye. President Kim Dae-jung and then-candidate Roh Moo-hyun had dinners and luncheons. Meal 1.5 hours, 90 minutes. But yesterday just 50 minutes, 30 minutes? Wasn't it a little too weak to drink tea in 50 minutes?



▶Joomin Park: It would be nice if we could do something like a dinner or luncheon. Everyone has a busy schedule. In particular, the President is leaving the country on the 28th. So I know it was a situation where I had to do a lot of preparations and things like that.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: You must be busy.



▶Park Jumin: I don't think there's any need to look at it like this, because it's too weak to talk properly. And because communication is flowing smoothly, even in normal times.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Opposition parties criticize it. There is an investigation in Daejang-dong. But what do you think of the opposition's criticism that this is inappropriate?



▶Jinmin Park: First of all, I think I can tell you two things. The first is that the president has already expressed his position on the investigation related to Jangdong-dong. It was last week. to investigate quickly and strictly. And in yesterday's meeting, we didn't talk about Daejang-dong at all. Actually, the Chief of Staff to the President said so at the National Inspection held at the Steering Committee yesterday. Even the president doesn't know how this investigation is going. Independently, the prosecution is doing well in the investigation. I've always wondered if the opposition lawmakers were communicating with the prosecution with the ruling party, but that's not the case at all. Especially in the case of the Airborne Service, we all knew from the media that they were asking for an arrest warrant because they were very independent.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. But in the end, the meeting between the ruling party candidate and President Moon Jae-in is something that has always been there, but most of it is. If you look at the patterns of government re-creation so far, the ruling party candidates re-created the regime through a slight differentiation from the current government, and it has become a lot like this. The former President Lee Myung-bak and the then-candidate Park Geun-hye were, of course, like that at the time. Again, what did CEO Song Young-gil say to the government? The government will change, that kind of expression. Candidate Jae-myung Lee and President Moon Jae-in were a little different. I said something like this, but in a situation where the original team was in conflict with Lee Nak-yeon's supporters, yesterday's meeting was focused on the original team's side? Is there an emphasis on differentiation?



▶Park Jumin: As you know, President Moon Jae-in has always emphasized the democratic government. So, I emphasized that it is a Democratic government, and the Democratic presidential candidate Lee Jae-myung met with the president. So, the main direction of the government policy that the Democrats think is a natural progression. In the midst of that, it is natural to inherit the tasks that the Moon Jae-in administration failed to complete, and to make up for the parts that were a little lacking. The part where you have to try a little differently is to try something different. Of course, all values ​​and directions are inherited.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Is it the Democratic government? All right. I think he drinks a lot of tea during his Sunday tea conversation with former CEO Lee Nak-yeon. Even with that, there are different interpretations of whether it is possible to become a perfect team or not. How do you see it? As someone who was at the camp, do you have any regrets that if former CEO Lee Nak-yeon helped you a little more actively, it would help you gather the supporters? Or that's enough, okay?



▶Joomin Park: Former CEO Nakyeon Lee will actively help. I will help, and I usually point out two problems in becoming a one-team team. There are one such part of the sediment in the election process, and there are differences in the policy direction that we have been insisting on. It's already been disbanded, but it's been a long time since I threw it all away. And as I continued to meet personally with the people who were on the side of Candidate Lee Nak-yeon, much of it has already been resolved.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Is it? Let me ask you one straight question, one last time. Differentiate yourself from your team. You can chase both rabbits at the same time, no.



▶Park Jumin: That’s right. Actually, as I said before, we are one in the big flow. It is one of the big trends, but the situation has changed. Then there is the part that needs to be changed accordingly. Or, the part that was less effective after making a policy attempt should be another policy attempt. These aspects are supplemented through evaluation. And, of course, the two go together.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: But anyway, if you look at the poll figures, it is true that there are a little more demands for regime change. How... .



▶Jin Park: When it comes to the demand for regime change, if we analyze the contents, it seems that there are a lot of complaints about the real estate policy. Then there seems to be some parts like fatigue due to the prolonged COVID-19. After that, good opportunities for young people are continuously decreasing. For example, the New Deal policies are the policies that give young people very good opportunities and are the basis for us to become a leading country, so we naturally inherit them all. When it comes to real estate policy, hasn't the government's direction to be aggressive with supply has been recently taken? We are already thinking about what we are going to do in this way, supplementing things that need to be supplemented while continuing that flow and supplying aggressively.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. I'll fill it out politically, I can understand it for this purpose. Now, I'm going to investigate and talk about this, but it turns out that there are one or two issues that are unfavorable and one that is advantageous from the perspective of lawmaker Park Jumin. We'll arrange them all evenly. First of all, it looks a bit awkward. The arrest warrant you mentioned briefly earlier yesterday. Prosecutor Son Jun-seong was dismissed by the Airborne Service after claiming this. You're a lawyer. How did you see the arrest warrant requests and dismissals followed by the investigations of the Airborne Service?



▶Park Jumin: As I said before, we have no idea how the Airlift Service is investigating in detail. Even the fact that they requested an arrest warrant was to the extent that we knew from the media. When we saw that they requested an arrest warrant, we thought that the circumstances of the destruction of evidence or such things were additionally secured, but I think the court is evaluating that that part was insufficient. On the other hand, it seems that Prosecutor Son Jun-seong talked a lot about actively participating in the investigation during the warrant substantive examination. I'm sorry. It would have been nice to have secured the circumstances of the destruction of evidence or to claim a warrant if the Air Airborne Service had requested an arrest warrant. On the other hand, I also think that there is nothing that can be done as an airborne agency. What do you mean, Prosecutor Son Jun-seong is also continuing the summons, but he's not responding, right? I'm in a situation like that, but I'm trying to do something by requesting a warrant for arrest by forcibly making an emergency arrest or something like that, because it's a bit burdensome due to various political circumstances. This doesn't work, so I'm trying to do something about it by requesting an arrest warrant in advance. It seems like you're working hard, but I think that it would be good to take that situation into consideration, and I'm worried about active-duty lawmakers such as Rep. Kim Woong and Rep. Jeong Jeong-sik. There's no other means, because they're incumbents.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: It must be more difficult.



▶Park Jumin: It's more difficult. So, there is also a concern that the investigation will be very slow or wrong through this process.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. This is an ongoing investigation, so we'll keep an eye on it and have two more investigation issues to keep an eye on. One more, just one little disadvantage. In the end, I'll tell you what's advantageous. It's a big dong. A transcript of former president Hwang Moo-seong came out and it has been noisy for the last couple of days. First of all, there was a recording of a person named Yuhan-gi coming and begging former president Hwang Moo-seong to resign. Mayor Lee Jae-myung really didn't know, at the time?



▶Joomin Park: First, regarding this article, I have a judgment that even though this transcript may not be interpreted that way in the overall context, it tends to be interpreted and reported as such. I have an idea that only a part of the recording is being released and released. So we are thinking of responding to this in a different way.



▷Kim Taehyun: What if you said another way?



▶Joomin Park: So, the report itself about this transcript is slightly distorted, and we are thinking about a few things in this regard.



▷Kim Tae-hyeon: Then, whether the mayor at the time Lee Jae-myung knew or didn't know, this is the second issue, and it is to take it first. There was no such thing as Yu Yu-gi or Yoo Dong-gyu, was there anything that was printed in such a line?



▶Park Jumin: That’s right. So, if you look at the entire original text at the time, the part of the recording that the mayor made it happen, it is not an aspect forcing a resignation, but a part related to the hiring, but we summarized the position that this part is being reported with a bit of distortion I'm thinking of making a claim or doing it.



▷Kim Taehyun: You are preparing internally.



▶Park Jumin: Yes.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: A kind of counterattack card. All right. When that card comes out, I'll go over this issue again. Last topic of the day. The Wolseong Nuclear Power Plant investigation is the second accusation, and this allegation was raised by our lawmaker Park Jumin, in the TF.



▶Park Jumin: I am not the only one raising this, but other lawmakers in the ruling party are also raising it now. First of all, it is very strange to see that when the audit results were announced by the Board of Audit and Inspection, they were all announced under a non-real name. And I sent the investigation reference material to the Supreme Prosecutor's Office, but that's not publicly available. However, on the day the investigation reference materials were sent, the complaint was received late at night, and in the audit results announced by the Board of Audit and Inspection, it was treated as a non-real name. It is impossible to write a complaint like that without information inside the Board of Audit and Inspection.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Then under whose name was the complaint filed?



▶Park Jumin: The power of the people. And I filed a complaint with the Daejeon District Prosecutor's Office. But the interesting thing is that when a similar accusation was made in 2018, the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office. However, when some of them were sent to Daejeon at that time, there was a lot of uproar from the people's side. Why are you sending it to Daejeon if you have to do it in the center? But this time, on the contrary, they filed a complaint against Daejeon. Maybe it wasn't the role of the chief prosecutor, I think. The next one is that we received a report, so we are checking it now, and the Ministry of Justice is also checking it. It seems that the confirmation is almost complete. Someone from the Board of Audit and Inspection visited the Supreme Prosecutor's Office and communicated with the Supreme Prosecutor's Office to send the case to Daejeon. There seems to be a circumstance that someone actually visited there. So, isn't this another accusation case in which the Audit Office, then the people's power, then the prosecution, and the triangular connection worked? This is how we see it.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: So, the Democratic Party's view is that if Prosecutor Son Jun-seong's accusation is only a matter of the then-President Yoon, then Choi Jae-hyung, the Chief of the Audit and Inspection Service, also appeared here.



▶Jinmin Park: Actually, we are receiving various reports. There are also reports that a fairly high-ranking person was involved.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: So from now on, do you mean that the TF will continue to raise this issue?



▶Park Jumin: That’s right. This is a very serious problem. It is a very big problem that the prosecution simply did something with a specific political party, but it is a triangular connection that even includes the Board of Audit and Inspection. Then this is a very big problem.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see.

This is also probably because Rep. Jumin Park keeps raising the issue, so if there is anything that comes out, if there is any news, I will ask for more details the next time we meet.



▶Park Jumin: I see.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Until now, I was a member of the Democratic Party of Korea, Park Ju-min.

thank you.



▶Jinmin Park: Thank you.