Jaime Malet: "There will be no solution in Catalonia if the separatist propaganda continues"

Businessman, president of the consulting firm Telam Partners and since 2002 president of the United States Chamber of Commerce in Spain,

was one of the first voices in the economic world to publicly alert in Catalonia to the lies with which the independence movement was building the

and the serious social, political and economic consequences that it was going to cause. Since then, in the spotlight of nationalism, Malet has just published

(RBA), a book in which he analyzes what happened in Catalonia and outlines future scenarios.

When in Catalonia the spiral of nationalist silence was absolute, on October 15, 2013 you said publicly what only before José Manuel Lara had dared to warn: the 'procés' was leading Catalan society to ruin.

Why did you take that step forward?

It bothered me to see how the political power was harming companies and workers, and that no one dared to explain that, unlike what the media in Catalonia, especially the public ones, said, no one abroad spoke of the

.

I had just returned from the meeting of the World Bank group, the International Monetary Fund, in Washington and no one had shown the slightest interest in the independence of Catalonia.

So that day I said something that seemed obvious to me: if the

continued down this path, thousands of companies in Catalonia would leave. As it happened, to the shame of Catalan nationalism and some politicians who have only brought division, pain and problems. His statement had a lot of repercussion. From that moment on, the independence movement identified him as an enemy and tried to discredit him. It didn't matter much to me, because I belong to the economic world and, furthermore, I was aware that people who get wet always have to submit to the criticism of others. So I did not put myself in favor of anything, I am not a nationalist of any kind, but I am against all those who were, and continue, telling lies to Catalan society. By family tradition and professional position, you belong to those Barcelona elites who, in many cases, actively supported the 'procés',they kept silent or looked the other way until 2017. Do you understand that attitude? There was a very strong law of silence because the tentacles of political power in Catalonia have been extraordinary. There are few places with 7 million people where the core of power is more concentrated. Some were silent because of their past, others because of the possibility of future business, others because they did not want to get into trouble. When civil society disengages itself in this way, it loses its meaning, which is to act against the power of political power. It is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in eDo you understand that attitude? There was a very strong law of silence because the tentacles of political power in Catalonia have been extraordinary. There are few places with 7 million people where the core of power is more concentrated. Some were silent because of their past, others because of the possibility of future business, others because they did not want to get into trouble. When civil society disengages itself in this way, it loses its meaning, which is to act against the power of political power. It is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in eDo you understand that attitude? There was a very strong law of silence because the tentacles of political power in Catalonia have been extraordinary. There are few places with 7 million people where the core of power is more concentrated. Some were silent because of their past, others because of the possibility of future business, others because they did not want to get into trouble. When civil society disengages itself in this way, it loses its meaning, which is to act against the power of political power. It is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in eThere are few places with 7 million people where the core of power is more concentrated. Some were silent because of their past, others because of the possibility of future business, others because they did not want to get into trouble. When civil society disengages itself in this way, it loses its meaning, which is to act against the power of political power. It is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in eThere are few places with 7 million people where the core of power is more concentrated. Some were silent because of their past, others because of the possibility of future business, others because they did not want to get into trouble. When civil society disengages itself in this way, it loses its meaning, which is to act against the power of political power. It is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in eIt is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in eIt is to speak clearly not to be an accomplice of a certain political power. Did you feel the solitude of the dissident? I hoped that after the statements of José Manuel Lara and mine, as well as the important article by José Luis Bonet in e

, let others speak. More than a failure of the Catalan elites the

It is a consequence of their lack of leadership, that they did not care about the stability of Catalonia and replicated the pro-independence lies. It gave me a very strange feeling to see some businessmen, who are friends of mine, applaud when the separatist political leaders said that their struggle was the same as that of Martin Luther King, Mandela or Ghandi. That systemic Omertá that you denounce, and the essence of Jordi Pujol's "Catalan oasis" ... Pujol began to control all the springs, including the so-called fourth estate of the media. One of the most extraordinary things about Catalonia is that it has the most partisan television and public radio of a democratic country. Every day they denigrate a part of the Catalan population and the rest of Spain to favor their own, but paid with everyone's money.That they only speak in Catalan and cannot speak in Castilian is a scandal. In recent years, a process of restitution of the figure of Pujol has been initiated, alleging that one thing is the economic affairs of the family and another, very different, is his "political work." I had a good relationship with Jordi Pujol, as I had with Artur Mas. I thought they were more sensible people. Everything that has happened in Catalonia was already explained in the report "Catalonia 2000", from the year 92, in which Pujol and his people detailed a plan to penetrate all the structures and springs of society. They succeeded to a large extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only needed to have the judiciary under control. And that explains theIn recent years, a process of restitution of the figure of Pujol has been initiated, alleging that one thing is the economic affairs of the family and another, very different, is his "political work." I had a good relationship with Jordi Pujol, as I had with Artur Mas. I thought they were more sensible people. Everything that has happened in Catalonia was already explained in the report "Catalonia 2000", from the year 92, in which Pujol and his people detailed a plan to penetrate all the structures and springs of society. They succeeded to a large extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only needed to have the judiciary under control. And that explains theIn recent years, a process of restitution of the figure of Pujol has been initiated, alleging that one thing is the economic affairs of the family and another, very different, is his "political work." I had a good relationship with Jordi Pujol, as I had with Artur Mas. I thought they were more sensible people. Everything that has happened in Catalonia was already explained in the report "Catalonia 2000", from the year 92, in which Pujol and his people detailed a plan to penetrate all the structures and springs of society. They succeeded to a large extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only needed to have the judiciary under control. And that explains thepolitical work. "I had a good relationship with Jordi Pujol, as I had with Artur Mas. I thought they were more sensible people. Everything that happened in Catalonia was already explained in the report" Catalonia 2000 ", of the year 92, in Pujol and his people detailed a plan to penetrate all the structures and springs of society. They succeeded to a great extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only lacked to have the judicial power under control. And that explains thepolitical work. "I had a good relationship with Jordi Pujol, as I had with Artur Mas. I thought they were more sensible people. Everything that happened in Catalonia was already explained in the report" Catalonia 2000 ", of the year 92, in Pujol and his people detailed a plan to penetrate all the structures and springs of society. They succeeded to a great extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only lacked to have the judicial power under control. And that explains theThey succeeded to a large extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only needed to have the judiciary under control. And that explains theThey succeeded to a large extent, which explains their feeling of impunity. They only needed to have the judiciary under control. And that explains the

. Half of the titles of the Statute that the Constitutional Court overthrew had to do with that attempt by the Generalitat to control the judges, which was later repeated with the so-called "Democratic Transition" laws that the Parliament approved in plenary sessions of 6 and 7 September 2017. It regrets that many in Catalonia looked the other way in the hard years of the separatist process, but what mistake did the Madrid elite make? What was happening in Catalonia was underestimated and many Catalans who went to Madrid were listened to to say that this was solved by "building bridges" of dialogue, when they knew that separatism had so excited their masses, convinced of the veracity of the lies of its leaders, that it was impossible to stop it. Some went to Madrid with good will, but others with very bad will. Above all,those Catalan leaders who acted as interlocutors with Madrid. In the Government there are those who present ERC as the new Convergence and that a pact of the Majestic with the Republicans would end the separatist challenge In Catalonia there is a drive between the people of the country and the city, between the real bourgeoisie and the craftsmen, between craftsmen and immigration, an idiomatic drive among those who speak Spanish and Catalan. These drives will always exist, so it is very difficult for things to settle down. There will be no return to Convergence pragmatism. The same with ERC, the independence movement retires to the winter barracks waiting for another more propitious moment, such as the right wing ruling in Spain, perhaps when something happens in Scotland or sentences are issued in Europe with their theses,But they will never stop. Don't you see a solution to the Catalan problem? Yes. End the brutal propaganda that exists in Catalonia, that nationalism loses control of the dream factory. Explain the truth to the part of the population that listens, watches and reads in Catalan. Tell them that Catalonia has its own idiosyncrasy but not enough to become independent, that in the history of Catalonia there are many more nuances than those explained in the official account, that the economic arguments for the alleged wrong are not such and that a country has never been divided because 50% of its population wanted it. Once this is done, the State must once again be more present. Barcelona is a rich and very important city that should be the coca-capital of Spain, as are Los Angeles in the United States or Milan and Turin in Italy.and to be a technological pole of southern Europe. That is a very attractive role and more important than being the small capital of a small country. Recently, you have been affected by the judicial investigation of "Barçagate", for your role of intermediation between Barça and Nicestream, the group to which companies such as I3 Ventures belong, which hired the club to improve the reputation of Josep Maria Bartomeu, and that the Mossos believe that it caused a "damage" to the entity of 1.2 million euros. It is curious that the journalists did not investigate which company this I3 Ventures is, that it was not investigated who and why they were behind the destabilization of the club, its board and the president through social networks, and for that reason they were forced to hire this company.It is curious that no one has explained who was behind the complainants, the fact that, for example, there were officials from the Generalitat or why the police officer in command of the Mossos at that time today is the director of security for Barça.

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