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■ Host: Joo Young-jin anchor
■ Interview: Yoo In-tae, former secretary-general of the National Assembly
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"Lee Jae-myung-Lee Nak-yeon's negative level 'Gandang
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"There will be no effect on unity and solidarity among the Democratic Party candidates It seems… better to resign"
"Failed to meet with Yoon Seok-yeol, because of leaks inside Yun Seok-yeol's camp"
"'Era of zero lines'... We need to reform the election system first"
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▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Every Monday, regardless of political issues, he is confident You are a person who clearly reveals the beliefs of Yoo In-tae was a former member of the National Assembly. Welcome to.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Hello.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The Democratic Party and the People's Power election structure was discussed with young politicians a while ago. Let's talk about the Democratic Party first, shall we? The competition is going on quite fiercely, but the negative, verification seems to have crossed the line, but it has not crossed the line yet. How do you see it?
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly:It's intermittent.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Gandang Gandang.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: It seems like it's over.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Jae-Myeong Lee and Nak-Yeon Lee are probably the two candidates who will have the most nerve-racking battles, right?
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: That's right. Because I got 1st and 2nd place.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: But Nak-Yeon Lee's approval rating has risen sharply in a poll just two weeks ago. Why do you think it happened?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: No, it is not the answer in the National Assembly that candidate Lee Nak-yeon was raised as a presidential candidate like that.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Question from the government.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary-General of the National Assembly: Questions from the government. No one can talk like that. It's like a natural talent. During the primary debate this time, I have the most stability, and what Rep. Nak-yeon Lee emphasized even when he was in the party for a long time is the conservative attitude, the so-called ignorant progressive, so the Democratic Party is a little neglected by the people. So, be a little more humble. However, there is something about the answer that strikes a climax without offending the other person. So, in the end, it was Lee Nak-yeon who got the most points in this discussion. That's because there are studies that show that they are quite competitive in some surveys. So maybe Chinmun and Honam were like, 'Ah, will this be in the finals with Nakyeon Lee?' While saying, 'Maybe I can do it well.' So it seems that there is not a lot of gathering.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Sye-Kyun Jeong and Kwang-Jae Lee agreed to unification, so didn't candidate Lee Kwang-Jae resign? It is said that he is playing the role of the predecessor of candidate Chung Sye-kyun. In that respect, do you think there is a possibility that Lee Nak-yeon and Jeong Se-kyun will merge later? Rather, candidate Chung Sye-kyun will support candidate Lee Jae-myung. How do you see it?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Who over there? So, the Electoral College was announced three times. Then, in the old days, when you look at this like this when you were in the circuit, people with low approval ratings resigned in the middle. However, the electoral college he gathered just because the resigning candidate declared his support for whom he supported. The votes have already been decided, the people who have cast their votes, and they don't mean much, so why would you do something like that? And just because there is a final, I try my best until the final, and if it doesn't work out in three separate sessions, I don't think there will be any unification even if there is a resignation.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Candidate Sye-Kyun Chung has a career similar to Candidate Nak-Yeon Lee, and also served as the ruling party leader and prime minister. However, the approval ratings for candidate Chung Sye-kyun do not rise. Candidate Jeong Sye-kyun is probably more frustrated than anyone else.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: That's right. Me too, anyway, because of this political hatred that people who have been members of the National Assembly for a long time are very polluted.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: You are saying that today as well.
▶ Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Again, very much. So, speaking of all now, isn't it the era of zero lines? No, beyond Yoon Seok-yeol and Choi Jae-hyung.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Jaemyung Lee.
▶ Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Lee Jae-myung and Lee Jun-seok are all said to be the era of zero lines.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: The era of zero lines. I've never been a member of parliament.
▶ Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: This is not the era of Park Young-sun, it is just the era of zero lines.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: But, a different candidate from Jae-Myung Lee, whom I asked a question to the Democratic Party's youth supreme a while ago. Now, if Candidate Nak-yeon Lee says that the approval rating is going up a lot, the composition will be different. Anyway, there were many stories like the Anti-Lee Jae-myung Solidarity. In that respect, rather than the possibility that candidates Lee Nak-yeon and Jeong Sye-kyun are linked to the question earlier, rather than being tied together like this, someone can unite with candidate Lee Jae-myung when it comes to a decisive stage.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Well, if the approval rating doesn't go down in the middle, it's nice to just quietly resign after a few or three times as a politician. Just because I support someone there doesn't mean I'm of much help to that person, and I'm not. So, unite, I think there will be no more solidarity. There is a mid-term resignation.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Unification even if there is a mid-term resignation. Even if the word unification comes out, will it not have much of an impact?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: I have no influence and I only wrinkle my style.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Late last week, the first trial court acquitted the Channel A reporter's allegation of attempted coercion. Perhaps Choo Mi-ae, who was the Minister of Justice at the time, said that the evidence was overflowing, but when the court found her not guilty, I wondered how Candidate Choo Mi-ae would react. to be.' How do you see this reaction?
▶ Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Because I am not a lawyer. However, the court also found that there was a problem with the acquittal.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: I pointed out that there is a clear violation of reporting ethics.
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: I made a point. What am I going to say about that verdict?
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The time when that incident happened was the so-called collusion of proverbs. The prosecution and the media had a collusion, they made an illegal transaction. This is how the ruling party gave it a so-called naming and name, but isn't that saying that they were acquitted of that part?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Well, as far as I know, there have been some things like that. I know it's been there, something similar to a prosecuting affair. However, I don't know the specifics about this case, so it's hard to comment on it.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: What kind of incident is the prosecutor leaked to the reporter and the article comes out and what does he say?
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: There were a lot of things like that. And brokers appear and get involved in the case, and in the case of Prime Minister Han Myung-sook, some broker does it. If you look at the black history of the prosecution in Korea, it is a vast amount even if it is written as a book. Prior to that, during the military regime, the intelligence department pushed a note, and if you gave it a note, the prosecutor asked for a sentence, the judge was the front row, and the back row weapons.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: But the media say so too.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary-General of the National Assembly: No, not reporters or media, but among law enforcement officers.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Brokers?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: I know there are quite a few who play similar roles.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I see. Then, I will continue to ask about the ruling party until today. Is there anything you want to say, but I didn't ask a question?
▶ Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: No, there is nothing special. It would be better if you don't ask questions if possible.
▷ Young-jin Joo/Anchor: Former Prosecutor General Yoon Seok-yeol and former lawmaker Yoo In-tae decided to have dinner. Well, the politicians were outraged. At that time, I saw the article and called, but the phone was turned off. But in the end, the meeting did not happen. What happened?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary-General of the National Assembly: Actually, I came to the National Assembly once with President Yoon, when I was the Secretary-General.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Prosecutor General.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: After becoming the president, there is nothing else to see other than that, there is no relationship. I've never had a cup of tea. But anyway, I got a call, directly to me. I want to see President Yoon sometime and get some advice.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Did you get a call directly from you?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Yes. so what are you going to do There's no reason why I can't meet, there are things I want to do just like that. So, but now, when President Yoon is receiving so much attention from the media, I thought it would be burdensome to see each other publicly, so I decided to watch it quietly. But it seems that the deputy spokesperson or someone made a mistake at that camp that day.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Did you tell the reporters about that?
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: We don't talk about people's names, we meet passport greetings today.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: A bitter voice.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: So that was the time it was aired here that day.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: That's right, that's right. After the broadcast, the article was published.
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: But I turned off my phone because I was coming and went without opening it and went to open it, so I just received dozens of calls, so I can't hold it first, because the signal keeps ringing. So I turned it off that day. So I decided to watch it next time I had a chance and canceled it that day.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: When we meet that day, what is that meeting? It was postponed, not canceled, right?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: I don't know yet whether it will be canceled or if it will be done again.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Did it depend on the mind of former President Yoon Seok-Yeol?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Anyway, I got a call again that day and it seems like it was due to a mistake on our side, so I will do it today and contact you again next time.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: You said you wanted to hear advice that day, but what were you going to talk about when you met?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: I think the current era of zero line has come.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: An era when people who have never been a member of the National Assembly have a high approval rating.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Our politics is not playing its role, but I don't think it's a human problem. In fact, like our country, the first half of the election comes in, the members of the National Assembly change a lot, and all the people who come in have a good reputation from time to time, and even if these people come in like this, they are all useless after being a member of the National Assembly only once. That's the system's problem, not the people's problem. So this politician, especially the National Assembly, where the members of the National Assembly can coordinate with each other the problems our society has and change it into a National Assembly that shows some of the so-called consultative democracy, then I think we need to change the electoral system first.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The story to former President Yoon.
▶ Yoo In-tae/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: I have such stories. Why is it that while I am in the political arena, why is our politics so distrusted and unless we fundamentally fix this from the people, all problems, including the economy, should become politics? Moreover, former President Yoon Seok-yeol is new to politics, so he wants to get some advice from me. Then I wanted to tell you something like this.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: And at this time, toward former President Yoon Seok-Yeol, former President Yoo In-Tae said that. 'Looking at what he's been doing so far, it seems that former President Yoon Seok-yeol gave up on Jungwon.'
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: That's right. So, the strength of former President Yoon Seok-yeol is this. So anyway, even in the early days of the Park Geun-hye administration, even when you were upset, you did not bend your beliefs, and you were disciplined and demoted.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: That’s right.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: And now, again, this time under the Moon Jae-in administration, he is showing such a figure, so he has such convictions and is not afraid of anything for his own convictions. Isn't that kind of image accumulated, former President Yoon Seok-yeol? That probably gave hearts to people who were quite in the middle. But when you look at the political declaration and what comes out after that, it seems like the Joongwon has almost returned to the days of the Liberty Korea Party. Now, rather than President Lee Jun-seok of People's Power, I compare the current President Yoon Seok-yeol and Lee Jun-seok, who will he give more heart to? Then I think that Lee Jun-seok, President of People's Power, probably has a lot more support from the Moderators than former President Yoon Seok-yeol. I think you will get it.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: This story is also a story that former President Yoon Seok-Yeol should hear, and you seem to think so. What do you think about the potential and potential of former Auditor General Choi Jae-hyung?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Well, so, the story of living a good life, adopting and carrying friends, this is a good and beautiful thing, but when it comes out this time, there is no such story as former President Yoon, just.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Did you get into politics?
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: And when I came out, I was persecuted like that, and I tried to kick them out. Isn't the nuclear power plant audit done at the request of the National Assembly? Of course, I was a little dissatisfied with the passport, but there was no such thing as persecution to kick that person out. So, I think the cause of resigning from the position of chairman of the Board of Audit and Inspection this time to go into politics is quite weak and weak. And other than the rumors about being good, what kind of story we are living in this severe history of that era, in that era, as a judge, we only made decisions as judges, and then we dropped out of the Supreme Court, so he was recommended as the Chief of the Board of Audit and Inspection. So the cause that comes out in politics right now is too much. look weak I see, but anyway, right now, there is a certain force of the people's power that has such an antipathy towards former President Yoon Seok-yeol. Quite an alternative for them. So I think at most 20 to 30 lawmakers are predicting now. When former Director Choi opens a little bit, I think I'll go there. So, if there's nothing special about it, I think it'll probably go up a bit.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I was going to send it to you, but I have a question that suddenly came to mind. It's a passport question. Wasn't the verification of the personal life of candidate Lee Jae-myung quite severe, during the preliminary election? However, as Candidate Lee Nak-yeon's approval ratings rose, Lee Jae-myung's side had made the unfortunate choice of Lee Nak-yeon's aides in the past. Alleged involvement in the Optimus case. There is an offensive in this area, and if you look closely, the responses of the two candidates are similar. I've already said it all before. Why is that fact, when such suspicions are raised, instead of 'I want to make it clear that this is the facts I know and I have nothing to do with it', everyone says, 'I've already told you this many times.' Should I answer like this?
▶ In-Tae Yoo / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: It's a little different. Governor Lee Jae-myung was like that during the Gyeonggi governor election, and he was tenacious in the final. So, on the part of Governor Lee Jae-myung, it is really necessary to do it again. But Lee Nak-yeon's nomination is not recent. And then all of a sudden something tragic happened, and we didn't talk about it. And I don't know. So, I need to explain it once, Candidate Nak-Yeon Lee. That's right. I don't know. What kind of monthly rent is nothing.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Printing press.
▶ Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: He said he helped me write something.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Copier.
▶ In-Tae Yoo/Former Secretary General of the National Assembly: Have you ever heard of a story about why he made such a tragic choice because he had one copy machine and he was indebted to it, which is only a few months old? There isn't. I think it needs to be explained in detail for once.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I see. This was an interview with Yoo In-tae, a former member of the National Assembly. I really listened to you today.
(SBS New Media Department)