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■ Broadcast: SBS Kim Tae-hyun's Political Show (FM 103.5 MHz 9:05 ~ 11:00)


■ Host: Kim Tae-hyun Attorney


■ Broadcast Date: June 16, 2021 (Wednesday)


■ Appearance: Park Min-min, Member of the Democratic Party of Korea



- People's

Lives

Creating strength and differentiation


- I am frustrated because there is no soil for the new Democratic Party to grow



▷Kim Tae-hyun: You are with Kim Tae-hyun's political show, and the political FLEX of

Lim Ja and Park Ju-

min Last week, you were with the people's power, Lim Ja, today with the Democratic Party of Korea. I am with Rep. Park Jumin.

Good morning.



▶Park Jumin: Yes, hello.



▷Kim Taehyun: Are you busy these days?



▶Park Jumin: Yes.

I am now serving as the secretary of the Judiciary Committee, as well as acting as the chairman of the committee, and also as the chairman of the Jeongjo Committee in the party. The number of regular meetings has increased significantly.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Rep. Park Jumin has to do big things in the future, so taking on a major position is very simple. We are also gladly watching Assemblyman Park Jumin's legislative activities, and the biggest topic in Yeouido right now is Lee Jun-seok, the leader of the People's Power Party. In the end, it will be, it will be, it will be, but after a typhoon, I was elected. I always ask this every time Rep. Park Jumin shows up, what do you think of this? The emergence of the 30th party leader of the People's Power. As a member of the same 30s and 40s, I think the feeling is a little different. I am not a member of the National Assembly, CEO Lee Jun-seok.



▶Park Jumin: It's the 0 line.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: It's the 0 line.



▶Park Jumin: When I came out before, I asked and told him, but I said that the energy of the people’s power that made Lee Jun-seok, the leader of the party, is very scary and frightening, and I have this energy, so many people are concerned, but the possibility of cruising. This is very high, because this powerful energy will be placed under and next to Party Leader Lee Jun-seok, so no matter how young the party leader and the weak base within the party, he thinks that he will be able to break through many things with that power.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. I will ask again in a moment how the energy that President Lee Jun-seok boosted, and how it will affect the Democratic Party in the end. I would like to hear some evaluations on President Jun-seok Lee's policies, but I will elect a spokesperson for a debate battle. In addition, a qualification test will be introduced for nominations in local elections. what do you think? Can it be applied to Democrats?



▶Jumin Park: I will select a spokesperson for a debate battle. In the past, I remember that our Democratic Party also chose a youth spokesperson in that way.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Proportional representatives have probably done something like that in the past.



▶ Jumin Park: Proportional representatives also introduced it in that way. So I think it can be a way to discover new people. And you said that you would introduce a qualification test for local election nominations, but in fact, it is not clear what questions to ask and what to test.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: It is. It doesn't seem like it has come out yet.



▶Joomin Park: There are parts that are a bit vague to evaluate.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: However, how do you view the idea of ​​creating a system of evaluation in any way from a general perspective? In the past, the truth is, there was no such thing as a local election nomination. Whether it was the primary election or if the party association chairman recommended this, the party did it this way, but not in the general aspect of taking a certain qualification test.



▶Park Jumin: The qualification test is probably not the final candidate selection, and in terms of the qualification test. Maybe it means that it primarily filters whether or not you have the qualifications to become a candidate. So, if that's the case, I think it's not necessarily a bad thing if you can do it with an appropriate evaluation item.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: A very positive evaluation,



▶Joomin Park: Once the qualifications are tested, isn't it difficult to evaluate those who are tested by testing, for politicians? So, in regards to that part, if the party members decide to accept such a thing, that in itself is very bad. It may be difficult to see it this way, and I think it can be a good method.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. Rep. Jun-pyo Hong of People's Strength said, "Showtime is over. It's time for exams." From the perspective of a senior politician, what is the task of CEO Lee Jun-seok?



▶Joomin Park: It's probably because I became the party leader, so I think I need to show you whether the things I talked about in the process of becoming the party leader can actually be realized. After that, we have to show how well we manage the process leading to the presidential election, just like our party and the people's power.




▷Kim Tae-hyun: That's right. In the end, we should also talk about the Democratic Party. Do you think the power that Rep. Park Jumin talked about earlier, the power that pushed up Representative Lee Jun-seok, will also come to the Democratic Party?



▶Park Jumin: As party leader Lee Jun-seok was elected, I felt the people's longing for a strong change. I felt it, and there are certainly a lot of stories that say that something needs to be changed, in the telegram room of the lawmakers. However, there is something lacking in creating such energy by itself, and in addition to that, the support rate for former President Yoon Seok-yeol has increased a lot recently, and it seems that the approval rate of the presidential candidate is locked in our case, and as it is added to this point, more and more I think the stories are coming out, within the party.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Within the party? What's the story?



▶Park Jumin: We have to show the real change of the party. These are the stories of how the party will win the presidential election without showing how it is changing.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Do you have a compound eye, a compound eye of change?



▶Park Jumin: Actually, it does not seem that concrete alternatives are being talked about in the Telegram room so far to show the change of the party and that the party has to take various steps to restore the people's trust. In my case, we talk about two things, one is that we have a large number of seats, so don't we need to show that we plan, select, and pass some important bills that the people want and want, but that do not work well? .



▷Kim Tae-hyeon: This can be seen as a policy move for the sake of the people's livelihood.



▶Park Jumin: Yes. And through that, they are saying a lot about whether it's okay to show a little bit of differentiation from the people's power, and another is that the party is trying to create a long-term vision beyond solving certain policy tasks. I need to show you some. So, we have to change the structure of the party a little like that, and show that we have to completely abandon discussions about such a long-term vision with the people. They are talking about two things.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: How about people? After all, politics is done by people, and the power of the people has not changed politically or ideologically.



▶Park Jumin: That's right.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: The Democratic Party, then, what do you think about the change through the younger generation, people, and people who can oppose President Lee Jun-seok? Rep. Park Jumin is also one of the main people who can lead change, right?



▶Jinmin Park: As a result, I don't think that those two things alone are necessary or sufficient. Taking a vertex, a fire dragon punctuation, is just as you said, a new person just appears. But it's a bit difficult to make this one.



▷Kim Taehyun: It takes some time.



▶Park Jumin: It takes time, it needs a lot of opportunities, and there are things like this, but in fact, the fact that we were not prepared for that part, that the party failed to create the soil and atmosphere for young people to take on a challenge, these are the most important things right now. It's a frustrating part, and it's true that it's difficult to come up with a solution. So, I worry about things like that. But how is it not difficult to artificially make this?



▷Kim Tae-hyun: But because yesterday or some morning newspaper used that expression. "Reconstruction is not possible because it is difficult to dismantle." After all, the 586 lawmakers in the Democratic Party may feel bad when they hear it, but from the outside, they use expressions that the 586's vested interests are strong. Perhaps because of those aspects, there are some views as to whether this has not hindered the growth of young lawmakers in their 30s and 40s, including Rep. Park Jumin. I think that's how the liberal media as well as the conservative media see it. When pointing out the Democratic issue. What do you think of those points?



▶Park Jumin: To be honest, I don't think I can say that there is no such thing. When I interviewed other media in the past, there were parts such as systemic improvement needed for young runners to move in the party, and there were parts that did not change even though we kept talking about those parts.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: The ratio of delegates in the primary and Are you talking about the percentage of party members?



▶Jinmin Park: Ratios and things like that. It must be said that it is true that such a part worked as a reason why such things did not change. Even now, there is a trend to change the system a little and create a foundation that can be challenged regardless of any existing networks, personal connections, or existing political careers, so in the case of Rep. Chung Cheong-rae, let's revise some of the party constitutional rules a while ago. It was delivered by receiving a speaker from the lawmakers, and even recently, in relation to the party constitutional rules that lower the value of certain delegates' votes during the primary election, the lawmakers are now living their lives.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: The term of the Democratic Party leader is two years, right?



▶Jin Park: The term of office is 2 years.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Do you have any plans to challenge the next party leader? This election seems to have passed anyway, given the timing.



▶Joomin Park: I'm thinking about a lot of things.



▷Kim Tae-Hyun: You

are

the leader of the younger generation, though in the Democratic Party.



▶Park Jumin: I don't know. Anyway,



▷Kim Tae-hyeon: Cho Jae-seon and re-elected members.



▶Joomin Park: We are talking about a lot of things, so we have to think about a lot of things. Rather than saying what I should do, I see the current situation in the party as very bad. So, whether it's changing the party or making a breakthrough, I think it's necessary to play a few different roles. rather than what I would do.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I think there are positive reviews that the Democratic Party is trying to change various parts, and that it has changed a bit since Song Young-gil took office. In particular, with respect to the real estate issue of the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission this time, there are people who think that the measures for leaving the party or the invitation to withdraw from the 12 members are insufficient due to the results of the investigation by the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission. There are still many reviews that say it has been done. How did you see it? But among the lawmakers, there are still quite a few who say they can't leave. How should I organize it?




▶Park Jumin: I think it is very unfortunate, or there may be parts of it that are unfair.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Personally, I think some people will feel a bit unfair.



▶Park Jumin: There are some things that are quite unfair when I listen to stories too. However, I think it is difficult for the party to make a different judgment in this situation. And especially in the case of those who are unjust, they can come back alive, so I'm sorry for the very difficult decision made by the party, but I think it's necessary to respect that a little bit. I'm honestly a bit sorry.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Is that right? So, in the end, in a way, the media's greatest interest is Song Young-gil and former floor leader Woo Sang-ho, who has been with the student movement since Yonsei University. In a way, personally, among all the charges, Senator Woo Sang-ho seems a bit weak, but he is the most powerful and the most symbolic among the 12 people on the list. Rep. Woo Sang-ho hasn't moved at all yet? It's unfair, the party is too much, are you in this situation, up to now?



▶Park Jumin: Yes. Shouldn't you at least give me a chance to call it out, at least once? I know that you are talking about such things, so I think the opinion is moving toward the need to give an opportunity to call at the party level. Even so, it is probably difficult to change the conclusion,



▷ Taehyun Kim: It is difficult to change the conclusion?



▶Joomin Park: Still, at least I will go through a process that gives me an opportunity to explain myself. After that, it's probably my opinion, but



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I need to make my own decision, right?



▶Park Jumin: Yes?



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Ultimately, you need to make your own decisions?



▶Joomin Park: In the end, I think that in the case of Rep. Woo Sang-ho, he would make a decision because he was so elected heir.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Some media reports say that if lawmakers do not follow the party leader's recommendation to leave the party or take measures to leave the party, they will be expelled from the ethics committee, is that correct?



▶Joomin Park: I don't think we've reached that stage yet.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Still?



▶Joomin Park: As I said before, some lawmakers should give them a chance to explain. This is a situation like that. I think that they will make a quick and wise decision after giving them a chance to explain.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. Democratic Party,



▶ Jumin Park: Just because I say things like this doesn't mean they hate them or anything like that.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: That's right. After all, since you are a public figure, you said this with the party in mind, so I understand it that way. Among the policy changes of the Democratic Party, now that I see it, there is still a discussion about the property tax, right? I don't know what the final draft will be in the end because there are more and more proposals coming out, but after seeing it recently, CEO Song Young-gil seems to be saying that it will only apply to the top 2% of the finalists, how is it organized?



▶Park Jumin: Now, in a situation where the originally scheduled National Assembly has been postponed due to COVID-19, the party's lawmakers are delivering various opinions to the party leader through the city. As far as I know, quite a lot of lawmakers have expressed concerns about whether easing the estate tax is in line with the real estate policy we have been pursuing,



▷Kim Tae-hyun:

I heard that the

party leader seems to have a different opinion. Still, CEO Song Young-gil and the leadership should relax a little bit, don't you see it this way?



▶Park Jumin: Well. So finally,



▷Kim Taehyun: Even if it's not the final conclusion.



▶Joomin Park: I don't know how the conclusion will come, but as far as I know, quite a few lawmakers have conveyed the opinion that it doesn't seem that way.



▷Kim Tae-Hyun: Then there is a high possibility that the easing of the taxation will not be possible?



▶Park Jumin: Yes. I'm not sure how the party leaders and leadership will decide.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see.

Although it is an opposing party, there is former Prosecutor General Yoon Seok-yeol, who represents Lee Jun-seok, who represents Lee Jun-seok of the people's power, and is the most influential player of the people's power.

From the outside, it seems that you are joining the party now and there is some smuggling. What is the Democratic Party's view of that?



▶ Jumin Park: Well, from the inside, you can see that they are smuggling, but most of our party lawmakers eventually join the power of the people, former president Yoon Seok-yeol,



▷Kim Tae-hyun: In the end?



▶Park Jumin: Yes.

However, I think that judgment on the time, method, and situation is not all that remains.

So I don't think this is going to end up like this, an essential fight, a breakup.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: Then, in the end, the single candidate of the opposition party will be former President Yoon Seok-yeol, do you see it like this?



▶Park Jumin: In the end, it is highly likely that this will happen.



▷Kim Tae-Hyun: So, is it now Deduction 6 or 7 of the Airborne Service for former President Yoon Seok-yeol?

How do you think the investigation into that case started?

Looking at the comments of the Democratic Party, did you see that he made a very dry and principled comment?

I had a feeling that I didn't want to soak my feet.



▶Park Jumin: How about us?

It felt like this.

For two reasons, 'Why all of a sudden?'

One of these things, the second one is, 'No, if there is an investigation, there are several cases, that one?'

You have this feeling.

So from our point of view, a little 'what?'

I'm looking at you right now with this look.




▷Kim Tae-hyun: Are you going to just watch in principle?



▶Park Jumin: Yes.



▷Kim Tae-hyun: I see. I heard many things with Rep. Jumin Park today, and I will see Rep. Jumin Park again in two weeks.



▶Park Jumin: I see.



▷Kim Taehyung: Thank you.



▶Jinmin Park: Yes, thank you.