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For days, journalists have been trying to tease Winfried Kretschmann with whom he wants to govern in the future after his big election victory.
The Green Prime Minister has the choice between a new edition of the coalition with the weakened CDU or a traffic light with the SPD and FDP.
On Tuesday evening, presenter Markus Lanz tried to lure more out of the 72-year-old in the ZDF program of the same name.
At first, Kretschmann only said: "We are not committed." It depends on what the exploratory talks from this Wednesday on.
But then it got interesting.
Why didn't he just continue the coalition with the CDU - "or was it that bad?" Asked Lanz.
“Of course it wasn't bad.
It wasn't always easy, ”replied Kretschmann.
Then he added: ““ Not bad ”is not yet the benchmark for political action.” Would he prefer a traffic light alliance?
Kretschmann replied: “It would certainly be interesting from an experiential point of view.
But that is also not the yardstick for such a decision. "
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But couldn't it be an advantage to work with two small partners instead of just one big partner who is almost as strong as the Greens?
Kretschmann: “It could be like that, but it doesn't have to be like that.
The little ones can also unite against the big one. ”One could read about that in the ancient Greek philosopher Plato.
"I'm trying to make the greens bigger"
Lanz quoted a CDU strategist from Baden-Württemberg who had said before the state elections: "If Kretschmann can bury the CDU, he will do that."
The CDU is a very important people's party that founded the social market economy and ties to the West.
Who is now having a Chancellor who has led our country well for many years. ”He added,“ Why should I wish that this party was brought down?
That's not my intention now. ”He doesn't make her small.
"I'm trying to make the greens bigger."