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Berlin / Cologne (dpa) - After outrage and criticism of the WDR program “The Last Instance”, actress Janine Kunze (46, “Janine Krause”) and presenter Micky Beisenherz (43) apologized for their statements. 

"It became clear to me that I have deeply hurt and discriminated people, especially those of the Sinti and Roma community, with my careless statements," wrote Kunze on Instagram on Sunday.

Beisenherz said on Monday in his podcast "Apocalypse and filter coffee": "If I have disappointed people, then I am sincerely sorry, because I do not want that"

In the panel discussion with moderator Steffen Hallaschka, the guests Micky Beisenherz, Thomas Gottschalk, Janine Kunze and Jürgen Milski discussed current social issues, including the question: "The end of the gypsy sauce: Is that a necessary step?"

The guests could agree with a green card and vote against with a red card.

All four guests held up the red card.

The program was broadcast on Friday evening as a repeat.

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Afterwards, many viewers on Twitter were outraged that the guests had dealt with the topic of everyday racism in a “lack of empathy”, “uncritical” and “naive” manner and had defended racist terms.

The fact that only white guests were invited to a discussion about racism was also heavily criticized.

The focus was particularly on a statement by Kunze who said that she had "never thought about many words".

"Take me for naive, no, they are part of it," she continued.

There was also sharp criticism of Thomas Gottschalk (70), who stated that he first experienced "how a black person feels" at a costume party in Los Angeles wearing a Jimi Hendrix disguise.

Kunze wrote in her statement on Sunday that as a mother of three children, she should be more enlightened.

She will rethink her choice of words in the future.

“It is my wish that we learn from each other”.

She provided her statement with the sketchy image of a heart.

Beisenherz said in his podcast that he should have reacted more vehemently to many problematic statements on the show.

"I understand that and I'll take that with me for the next time."

On Sunday, the broadcaster had admitted errors: the program did not go as “as we planned and imagined”.

In the “last resort”, controversial issues should be discussed in an entertaining way, and each guest is of course allowed to express their opinion.

"But in retrospect, it is clear to us: With such a sensitive topic, people who bring other perspectives and / or are directly affected should definitely have taken part in the discussion," the statement said.

"We have learned from this in any case," said a WDR spokeswoman for the German press agency.

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Beisenherz became clearer: "If there are four potatoes sitting and voting on racism with cards, then something is essentially wrong, you simply cannot do that," he said in his podcast.

As a society, one is much further than "seriously discussing this damn schnitzel in 2021 and saying that I really want to use the Z word when I order."

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Statement by Janine Kunze on Instagram

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Podcast apocalypse and filter coffee

Video Thomas Gottschalk on Twitter

Video Janine Kunze on Twitter

Statement by WDR on Twitter

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