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■ Interview: Ahn Chul-soo, Representative of the National Assembly Party
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"Run for mayor of Seoul with the determination to save the country"
"A decision that is not easy to run…I will lay the foundation for the change of government "
" feel worked political rewarding for social improvements in a good direction "
should be started within the" opposition unified practical negotiations shortly. "
" gimjongin and I aim 'mayor elections the opposition wins ... will begin discussions, "
" Seoul, setbacks over the past decade ... gyeolja It will be resolved with the feeling of termination"
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▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: It is said that you registered as a preliminary candidate for the mayor of Seoul this morning.
The reason, background, and unification of the people's strength with Ahn Cheol-soo, the representative of the National Assembly Party.
Let's hear what to do.
Welcome to.
▶ Ahn Chul-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: How are you?
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: How are you?
Following yesterday, I appeared on SBS every day.
Unfortunately the schedule.
You registered for the preliminary candidate this morning, but I think it was a little different from the other days.
I wonder if it was different from the local election three years ago.
▶ Ahn Chul-soo/CEO of the National Assembly Party: I came to work with determination to save my country.
Isn't the country really difficult right now?
It is difficult even with Corona 19, but these are the levels that small business people really live with.
Besides, justice, fairness, and common sense Many of you must have felt it during the last motherland crisis, but it all collapsed.
So I came this morning with the determination to save the country.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: I will save my country.
If you say that you will save the country, I think it will be the story of the presidential candidate, but that means that you have decided to go to the mayor of Seoul.
A politician named Ahn Chul-soo, who was a presidential candidate, decided to go to the mayor of Seoul, not the presidential election.
Until that moment, he said he had no idea of the mayoral election in Seoul, but changed his mind.
Why did this happen?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Actually, I had a lot of thoughts.
There are various opinion polls, but among politicians, they were vying for the first and second place in the opposition presidential election.
So it was such a difficult decision.
Many people were worried that if the Seoul mayoral by-election was lost, there would be no next presidential election.
However, looking at the situation, it is becoming a very difficult election.
I made that judgment.
Even though this election was caused by sexual harassment of the mayor of Seoul and former mayor of Seoul, the fact that the opposition party is still difficult, then I thought that I would break through this by throwing one body and lay the foundation for a regime change.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Changed direction from the presidential challenge to the mayoral election of Seoul.
However, in the case of CEO Ahn Chul-soo, if he had only the heart and the will 10 years ago, he would have already run for the mayor of Seoul and was elected.
Why was the choice made 10 years later that wasn't made 10 years ago?
▶ Chul-soo Ahn/CEO of the National Assembly Party: 10 years ago, so the biggest difference is that I was not a politician 10 years ago.
At that time, I was a professor and president of the Graduate School of Convergence Science and Technology at Seoul National University.
Now I am a politician.
In the meantime, the initial intention has not changed at all.
I’m going to change the politics of Korea to the good side. So, didn’t it start?
However, I have had so many experiences.
As the party's representative, he has led almost all national elections, and has also been candidates for the parliamentary elections and presidential elections, passing various bills across the opposition parties, taking the initiative to pass laws such as the Kim Young-ran Act and gained a lot of experience.
So, I say that now, if you become the mayor of Seoul more than anyone else, you can get through it properly.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Ahn Cheol-soo 10 years ago and Ahn Cheol-soo 10 years later have changed.
Above all, I became a politician, now.
Can I understand with those words?
Then, what is the ultimate goal of a politician named Ahn Chul-soo?
Of course, it seems natural that I want to do a kind of politics that will help me to serve the people and the country and go in a better direction.
Would it be some sort of tool for that?
Will it be a means?
The mayor of Seoul will be the same, and the president will be the same. Is the final goal of a politician Ahn Chul-soo the mayor of Seoul or the president again?
▶ Ahn Chul-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: My goal is not a seat.
My job is always more important than my job.
What I do is more important than what I am in.
So isn't politics more than any role?
What is politics.
Different people have different definitions, but I think it's about shaping the lives of us and our children.
If you look at us, aren't we born in Korea, educated in the Korean education system, worked hard in those jobs created by many companies, and received the various welfare benefits that were made in Korea after retirement?
It's about making that frame.
So, I think it's really important and meaningful, and the most rewarding things as a member of the National Assembly are to persuade the ruling and the opposition parties and pass various meaningful bills, such as the Kim Young-ran Act or the New Hae Iron Act, and change the society little by little while passing these laws. .
That in itself is a great reward for me.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Looking closely at Ahn's past as a politician.
When the New Political Democratic Union was founded with the former CEO Kim Han-gil, I don't think he was on the mainstream side of any passport or opposition party except then.
So, continuing to talk about the third path and talk about the middle, I feel that this is the personal conviction of a politician named Ahn Chul-soo, and at the same time, is it that the politician Ahn Chul-soo cannot stand in the mainstream or the center.
From another point of view, I think I can speak critically like this.
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: As you said, hasn't this third path been a very difficult path?
Some journalist who was close to me said that.
It is the first time in the political history of the Republic of Korea that there has been such a long time remaining in the third zone.
So there are probably pros and cons about that.
That is because I am doing politics toward the people who called me in the first place.
Why would many people want to participate in politics for someone who didn't know anything about politics at first?
It was these things that I thought about while thinking about myself.
I wasn't a politician, and I looked at politics and thought about what's wrong with Korean politics.
Three things came to mind at the time.
The first is politics of corruption.
Next, and second, the politics of politics.
So right and wrong is not important, and is it on our side?
So, on our side, we have to cover up villains, and on the other side, we are disappointed in demonizing even saints?
And thirdly, politics reigning over people over people like kings.
So, the politics of enjoying power and being treated.
I made a decision to change that.
So I don't forget that while I'm doing politics.
So, it is not politics as a corporation for the public good and then politics to solve problems by looking at our social problems properly and focusing on them.
I also said that it is pragmatic politics.
Next and third is politics that not only reigns and receives treatment, but also creates and supports such conditions in which people can live.
Those three things I called the new politics in a word.
But when I said that for the first time, I got a reaction that said the reaction was ambiguous.
I guess I spoke at the level of a college student.
I am a university professor.
They talk to a level that even elementary school students can understand, but it's still vague.
I knew it later.
That was the vested political logic.
To protect their territory, I made it to get rid of me now. I have one mouth, and that side has 100,000 mouths.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: You seem to be talking about your passport.
▶ Ahn Chul-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: They are political forces.
So people just don't hear my voice from the outside like this, and 100,000 people are ambiguous, so they don't listen to my explanations. Oh, it's a new politics.
It was made to be recognized like this.
That is the reality of manipulating the image and manipulating public opinion that are common in Korean politics.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: I remember the story of former President Kim Dae-jung.
'I have to tell the people the path I want to go over and over again.
That way, it will be an imprint in the minds of the people. If you give up just because you said it once or twice, or because there was no response, you can't do that.'
I suddenly think of that.
I'm not asking this because somebody is ambiguous.
Even when I suggested this by CEO Ahn Cheol-soo, I was also a little vague.
Didn't you suggest to unify the people's strength?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Yes, it was.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: And I think you talked with the intention that I can participate in the contest for the people's power as long as the people's power is determined. Did I understand this well?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: You understand correctly.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Then, in order to participate in the contest on the power of the people, it is not necessary to become a member of the power of the people.
Of course, this question came up.
Are you saying you would do that?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: That is not it.
Again, you need an explanation.
First of all, when I first declare my running for mayor of Seoul, the opposition must be a single candidate.
Now I have told you that.
Then it must have been last week again.
The contents of the proposal at that time, please open the contest within the power of the people outside.
In other words, it meant to create and manage a contest in which everyone participates in the entire opposition.
And that's what the American Democrats are doing.
In the case of the Democratic Party of the United States, non-Democrat Bernie Sanders participated in it, and the last time he competed for first and second place with Hillary Clinton?
How about introducing such a method?
I made an offer like that.
What if only TV debate is 1:1, American?
Even in such a contest itself, it would have suggested the American way.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Let's do it in the American way.
The time is tight for that.
Hasn't the power of the people decided now anyway?
After choosing our candidate, we will negotiate unification with Representative Ahn.
The attitude seems to have been set like this, but is CEO Ahn Cheol-soo continuing this proposal to win the contest, including myself, who is with me?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo/CEO of the National Assembly Party: In addition to that, what I suggested at that time is this.
And is there another way the people's power suggests?
Let's start working with all of those possibilities.
In fact, that proposal was the main proposition.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Then, the people's strength and practical negotiations haven't started yet?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Yes, unfortunately, it is not yet.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: There is no response.
If a proposal comes from the power of the people and our candidate is decided, will you respond to the proposal to unify with Representative Ahn specifically and do this like this?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo/CEO of the National Assembly Party: I said that it would be better to start working-level negotiations as soon as possible for several reasons.
Usually, it takes a lot of time to negotiate with each other after a candidate is decided in early March.
Until now, in the political history of Korea, 1:1 unification took a lot of time.
Then, isn't there such a possibility that the negotiation is not possible?
And until February, if both parties continue to run their competition programs and there is no dialogue with each other, the opposition supporters will be anxious, exhausted and tired.
Can't it?
So, even if we proceed with each other's program, once we proceed with the negotiations on the working line, then the opposition supporters will be able to look at it with confidence, and this will surely become a single candidate.
I gave you that suggestion and I am waiting for an answer now.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Anyway, I will unify with the power of the people.
I don't have to be a candidate. Can viewers understand this idea?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Yes.
I have said that many times.
I'm not saying that this is my focus, and I'll let all of the candidates gathered compete for policy with each other.
Then, if you win again, let's do your best to win the winning candidate and all the rest.
Having said that, even if someone else becomes a candidate through the process, I will do my best for his election.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: If you represent Chul-Soo Ahn, it was so popular that it was called Ahn Chul-soo phenomenon 10 years ago.
However, there are fewer and fewer people with CEO Ahn Chul-soo as they go through a certain phase since entering the political world.
Lee Seok-soo, as well as the people who were with him, change their minds critically toward Ahn Cheol-soo after a little while.
In the case of former Congressman Tae-seop Geum, do not openly withdraw any more.
I also talked about it like this.
You probably heard it.
Are you disapproving or disapproving?
How is it?
▶ Ahn Chul-soo/National Party Representative: First of all, when I hear such a word, I have a lot of things that I lack.
I have to fix it and fill it up.
I'm thinking about that.
I am saying that again.
On the other hand, I have walked a very difficult path in the last eight and a half years, right?
It is a very difficult road, but I am not starting politics in a comfortable large party or staying there with the belief that it is the right path to change our country's politics, but I am going on this path.
However, the problem is that the politicians who are with me must have the opportunity to do something politically in order to achieve their will, but under this difficult situation, they have no choice but to make other choices.
I feel like that.
So, I'm really sorry for not being able to create better conditions.
And also, for the past eight and a half years, I still have a lot of colleagues who are still walking a difficult path with me.
I am very grateful to them.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Isn't Kim Jong-in honestly saddened by the people's power of the people?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Maybe.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: He rarely said anything good about CEO Ahn just by talking.
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Maybe this is the case.
How do I know what you think because you are a person with a lot of political experience, but first of all, since you are a person who is responsible for the 1st opposition party, I think we have to think about everything first.
However, despite this, the target point that the opposition party should win the Seoul Mayor's by-election this time is exactly the same, so I expect that it will eventually move in that direction.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Chairman Kim Jong-in saw an article that I saw today after seeing a media report,'It seems that someone in the party is trying to shake me by using CEO Ahn Cheol-soo.'
I saw articles like this appear.
Perhaps, a story about the lawmakers who are within the power of the people, and a story related to Chairman Kim Jong-in.
No, there was a personal relationship between Chairman Kim Jong-in and I to the viewers. Is there anything that you can introduce?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: I am not a person like this to shake someone by using someone.
That's if you've been interested in my political journey all the time, you'll know it for sure.
Perhaps the opposition has to win. Isn't this election too difficult?
In fact, I am feeling a sense of crisis that the 1st opposition party has lost 4 consecutive times, but Seoul is worse.
The opposition has been defeated in all elections over the past decade.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: The late Mayor Park Won-soon continues.
▶ Ahn Chul-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: So it is a more difficult situation, but will the situation suddenly become an advantage in 10 years now?
Absolutely not.
So, I think the goals of various people within the people's strength are the same.
How can the opposition win this time?
People probably have different ideas about how to do it, so I think you are discussing various things.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Perhaps CEO Ahn Chul-soo became the single candidate for the opposition and went to the Mayor of Seoul.
The outcome is unpredictable by anyone, now.
If, in the first place, suffered the same failures as four years ago, will that election be the last election as a politician for Ahn Chul-soo?
▶ Ahn Chul-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: Didn't I tell you that I came out with a feeling of saving my country?
So I don't think I'd lose if I could be a single candidate for the opposition.
Wouldn't the voters give us an opportunity to save our country with the feeling that they really came to save our country?
I think so.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Do I have to ask this question after seeing the results?
Chairman Kim Jong-in Have you met for New Year's greetings once, but have you ever met Kim Jong-in or Jeong Jin-seok, president of the race management committee?
▶ Ahn Chul-soo/CEO of the National Assembly Party: We couldn't see you after the New Year's greetings.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Of course you have any plans to meet in the future, right?
▶ Ahn Cheol-soo / Representative of the National Assembly Party: If there is an opportunity, can't we meet anyone related to politicians?
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: The reason why you want to become mayor of Seoul, if you become mayor of Seoul, I will change the city like this.
You must have planned a lot of preparation, so I will give you about a minute, so let's take a short look at our camera and talk to the viewers.
▶ Chul-Soo Ahn/CEO of the National Assembly Party: Now, the city of Seoul has been regressing rather than changing over the past 10 years.
And also, many people suffer, including young people.
I promised to solve these problems with the feeling of termination.
Seoul City is a world-class city.
So, with the goal of making Seoul a free and innovative city, and also a high-tech smart city, a global leading city, and above all, a city of happiness for youth, I am eagerly expressing my thoughts.
Stay tuned and ask for your support.
I'll do my best.
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: This was an interview with Ahn Cheol-soo, the representative of the National Assembly Party.
I listened to you today.
(SBS New Media Department)