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05 December 2020

The center-right joins the 'no' to the MES, while today a tight question and answer is staged between the leader of Italia Viva, Matteo Renzi, and the M5s political leader, Vito Crimi, in view of the Senate vote on Wednesday 9 December .

The Minister of Economy, Roberto Gualtieri, says he is confident "in a positive vote", for Meloni on the Mes "either Conte collapses or M5s collapses". 

Question and answer Renzi-Crimi


"What will be voted on will be a resolution to communications by Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte and I am convinced that there will be a joint majority resolution that will look beyond" the reform of the Mes.

If the government falls?

"Absolutely no", says the M5S political leader, Vito Crimi, who was a guest at a confrontation between political leaders on Sky Tg24.



"The problem of the passage of December 9 is all of the M5S. I do not agree with Crimi's reasoning on the MES. If we take the money from the MES and not from normal financing, we save 300 million a year, it is money that is saved by the citizens. On the Mes I am with Zingaretti and not with Crimi ", explains Renzi, also on Sky tg24.

"To save 300 million we submit to other conditions, we hypothesize the future of the Italians as happened with the Fornero law", underlines Crimi.

And, immediately, Renzi's reply arrives: "But which Fornero? Mes has no conditionality", attacks the leader of Iv.

And Antonio Tajani, also a guest on the show, not surprisingly ironically: "it's a rather quarrelsome majority ...".

Salvini: "No to MES, it is an international treaty with conditions"


"The MES is an international treaty that refers to conditions, in the past the Greeks and Cypriots have seen them. There are 70 billion euros in the coffers of the state because the the government is unable to spend it, Italy's problem is not a lack of money, but of ideas ", said Lega secretary Matteo Salvini, reiterating his opposition to the use of the ESM.

Meloni: "Reform is saving German banks"


"We are consistently opposed to both the reform" of the Mes, because it transforms it "more and more into a fund to save banks, especially German banks", and "access even in the so-called version without conditionality, because unfortunately it is not without conditionality "says the president of Fratelli d'Italia.

"Of the two, either: either Conte collapses or M5S collapses. I fear the second" Meloni also stated in an interview with the Messenger.

Tajani: "Fi will vote no conviction to the reform and yes to the health care"


'' We will vote no conviction to the reform of the Mes, but not because we are anti-European.

Instead, we are for the yes to the Mes Sanitary '' assured Antonio Tajani, vice president of Forza Italia, reiterating that Silvio Berlusconi has not changed policy on this issue.

Gualtieri: "Confidence in positive vote, incomprehensible veto"


"I am absolutely confident that there will be a positive vote" on the ESM reform, "it would be incomprehensible that Italy exercised a veto while it is fighting against vetoes of other countries on the Recovery plan" says the Minister of Economy, Roberto Gualtieri.

Conte: the Government will not fall.

The vote is on the reform of the ESM, not on its use


The Government will not fall: the vote in Parliament next week on the ESM is on its reform, not its use.

This was stated by the premier, Giuseppe Conte, interviewed today by 'Repubblica'.

"The vote will not be on the activation of the Mes, but on some of its changes which, thanks also to the contribution of Italy, have served to improve a mechanism that has already existed since 2012", he said.

"I lead a pro-European government, we will be protagonists of the reform of the Mes and the Recovery Fund together with Berlin and Paris".