Sociologist Edgar Morin, thinker of his time, believes that France is on a crest line when it comes to emerging from the crisis linked to the coronavirus epidemic.

"I am neither pessimist nor optimist, I am a vigilant spirit", explains the philosopher Monday on Europe 1.

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Last March, when the first wave of the coronavirus epidemic swept over France, Edgar Morin warned that this pandemic would be an "uncertain adventure where the forces of the worst and that of the best will develop".

A few months later, a second wave hits the country, but the sociologist and philosopher has not changed his mind.

"We are in a transition. We are still in this multidimensional crisis which concerns us personally, each one, and the whole planet", he analyzes, Monday on Europe 1.

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Who says transition therefore means the future emergence of a world after.

But with what values?

"The forces of the best would be the forces of the imagination, capable of finding a way, of salvation. And those of the worst, these are the forces of regression which already manifested themselves before the pandemic. But we are not yet in the worse ", nuance Edgar Morin.

“I keep the hope reasonable, but no euphoria. And no despair”

The philosopher, however, refuses to dare a prognosis.

"I am neither a pessimist nor an optimist, I am a vigilant mind. If you will, I am an opti-pessimist," he smiles.

"I think things are probably going to be pretty bad, but I think the probable, as we've seen so many times in history, doesn't come true and the improbable does happen. reasonable hope, but no euphoria. And no despair. "

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The sociologist finally warns against sleepwalking, which prevents us from seeing the dangers that threaten society.

"Let us take the example of the degradation of the planet. We were so little aware of it. The nations did not take the necessary decisions. So that was a typical case of sleepwalking," says Edgar Morin .

"On the other hand, we are in a world where fanaticism, nuclear weapons, computer weapons multiply, biochemical weapons and pandemic dangers multiply. I remember very well the time of the Resistance. We were there. very few, but we were beginning to represent the wish of an ever greater number of our fellow citizens. And so, even if we were not many, we were going in the right direction. "