Mario Vaquerizo: "We live in a dictatorship in which we censor ourselves"

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Madrid, 1974.

has just released a 'podcast' on the History of Spain and this weekend he will present at the Calderón Theater in Madrid 'La Último Tourné', a variety 'chou' in which he shares the stage with

, his woman, and with her friend

.

What is 'The Last Tourné'? A variety show.

Like the ones in the 70s and 80s, that Raúl Sender came out, that Titi made a sissy joke and then Bibiana appeared with a panther.

All

Weddings, when the couple finished, before going on their honeymoon, they went with the closest relatives to one of these nights.

And what happened to them?

This type of show begins to fall into disuse and disappears when the time comes to believe ourselves more modern, in the 90s: with private televisions and the experimental roll theater La Fura dels Baus.

Then, it begins to be established that the above, although it had been very popular, is low culture.

The same as with Eloy de la Iglesia, that the most sensible critics were always saying that they were very bad films and, nevertheless, afterwards they had the popular fervor.

In any case, the genre of the varieties, of the magazine, did not have that pretense of wanting to be modern.

How do you see it from the inside?

I see it as 'The trip to nowhere', by Fernando Fernán Gómez, where you see a theater company, which is our case, that is witnessing the disappearance of their world.

They are survivors and they have that need to adapt.

But the new world that is coming does not interest them: They are not interested in Lorca, they are not interested in experimental theater ...

How are you in the theater?

The theater has never been a pretense in my life.

Do a 'podcast' on the history of Spain either.

The only claim I had was to be a journalist, which I managed to do and I do it whenever I feel like it.

And then have a music group.

The rest has been given to me.

I have not pretended to be famous, although I love being able to be on television and be comical, because I laugh at myself constantly.

What about working with his wife, Alaska?

Each fag is a world.

I get along very well working with Olvido.

The side that she likes most about me is that everyone recognizes that I am a professional guy, who manages the careers of the groups very well.

I am a very serious person who is entertaining by profession.

How do you keep 'balance'?

My life has been fighting since I was little, I wanted to be John Travolta, and I have been working since I was 15 years old, when I started doing basketball scores for Real Madrid and Estudiantes.

My character is very non-judgmental.

Because I like everything, really.

His project of a 'podcast' on the Audible platform about the history of Spain has raised an eyebrow to some.

I was already a trend, a meme and a 'trending topic' before there were those things.

It is a job, obviously, and I do it because they pay me, but when they asked me if I wanted to work as a teacher telling the History of Spain for the students of the 2nd year of High School, I said: "But this is total.

Let's see, I don't know how to project my voice, so it was a learning experience.

And then I went back to relearning everything I had studied: the Visigoths, Isabel la Católica ...

Is it difficult for you to stop being Mario Vaquerizo?

I put my little things.

If we already get, we get.

I have a lot of personality.

So I have no capacity to imitate.

But being a clown doesn't mean not being a serious person too.

I have that duality and it is what has always saved my life.

How about all this Covid?

I don't get along with the pandemic, I don't get along at all.

I've been going through all this confinement with my mother-in-law, who is a risk person and you can't do everything you want at all times either.

Also, for a question of civic responsibility, although I don't like it.

But I have no more balls to do it.

At times it makes me feel uneasy and since I shout it all, I shit on the fucking pandemic.

That's why I need to escape, because I want to get out of the way, but to be with my friends and gone for five days.

As I am now going to be in the theater from Wednesday to Sunday, Olvido told me the other day: "Go to Topacio Fresh's house for the weekend and disappear."

And I stayed at my friend's house watching videos of 'Aplauso', by Susana Giménez, Moria Casán and Mirtha Legrand.

And the mask?

Well, I tell myself to look at the end what a forerunner Michael Jackson was in that.

What will happen now?

We are witnessing a war, which is not nuclear or weapons, but about health.

People are dying.

And I want everyone to do well.

For this reason, many days, instead of walking from here next door, I take a taxi, because the taxi drivers spend six hours driving around and they have nothing.

And for five euros I don't care, because we have to help each other.

Do you like money?

Let's see, I already said it more than once: I don't trust anyone who doesn't like money.

Is a lie.

How do you age?

I like having a birthday, because being immortal is a pain in the ass.

The older I get, the happier I am, because I know more things and I am fuller with my life.

I have my independence and I am with the person I love.

What have you learned over the years?

Life is very difficult, but sometimes it is very easy.

You just have to know that difficulty can be turned into ease by being yourself.

And what about the gray hair?

There is one very important thing: that my wife sees me sexier with gray hair than without it.

Can you have a 'pantene hair' with gray?

Of course I do.

And women too.

Look at Lily Munster, or how Angela Molina is.

What do people tell you about your silver hair?

He loves it.

My audience is grandmothers, teenagers and later sissy children.

What do you say to people who reproach you for doing this or that?

That I'm not going to be like you want me to be

Do you think that in the times of the Movida there was more freedom?

Look what happened to the Vulpes.

Let's see, the Las Vulpes thing was a matter of good taste that they banned it, at that point and after Iggy Pop. But before it was more modern than now.

Alaska was called a whore for wearing the torn stockings, but now it seems that nothing can be done.

The moment you start to censor yourself, that doesn't stop being the dictatorship.

They have crucified him for publicly expressing his support for Esperanza Aguirre, in these same pages, moreover.

I am neither black nor white: the pearl gray I always talk about.

Nor do I feel so important nor do I want to be a champion of anything because I do not take myself so seriously.

It is very good that nobody expects anything from you.

But you did pioneer some things ...

You're talking to a man who talks about himself in feminine, darling.

While you, a book feminist, cannot have your own opinion and you have to follow dogmas.

And I am not dogmatic at all.

What opinion do you have of these people, the dogmatic?

They have little work or they are bored.

They are dictators and they see their truth as the only one.

But there are as many truths as there are fags in the world.

And the 'intelligentsia'?

The corduroys have always seen us as frivolous.

In the 80s and now.

Anything else?

I shit on the politically correct.

We live in a dictatorship: people cannot really say what they think and in the end they end up doing it clandestinely at their friends' houses.

You are going to tell me what I have to say, of course.

To me, I do what comes out of the very pussy.

What effects does this situation have?

In the end, we people ended up going to our Noah's Ark.

It's Darwin, natural selection: in the end you end up being with your kind.

That carries another 'danger', which is inbreeding.

But, of course, blessed be the inbreeding, because I look around and I'm not interested in anything.

Well, yes: take 'Nancy Furgo' for a few days and go with the Nancys Rubias or do theater with my friend Bibiana Fernández, who was a Martian.

Or with my wife, who has also been a Martian and continues to be to this day.

I go with people who are the owners of their lives and who do not judge anyone.

It is very easy to always make that paternalistic discourse, that I can't stand it, that others are always to blame.

Let's talk about God

I am a person who prays every day and that every time he goes to mass he is happy when he receives communion, because he is taking the body of Christ.

Are you a monotheist?

There are many gods, there is the god Fabio McNanamara and then there are the archangels.

For me they are Warhol, Bowie and John Waters.

I am religious, but not only in the most dogmatic sense, but spiritual.

I consider myself a Christian person, because the education I have had I continue to exercise.

Today it makes me feel good to go to mass.

I went to Lourdes and came back cured: I bathed in the pools and was charged with a beautiful spirituality.

God exists?

God exists and saves me day by day.

So blessed faith, blessed religion, and blessed God.

Life has always been a war and the figure of God has always been present everywhere, even in Altamira.

Speaking of which, there are those who see the religious fervor of you or McNamara as going from 'pot'.

I'm sick of hearing journalists and some people say: "Fabio was so divine."

You haven't met him in your fucking life.

He has always been divine and now much more, because he is less contaminated and lives at peace with himself and does not have to go looking for other things to get out of the way.

If Fabio's reconversion serves so that, in a selfish way, I continue to enjoy my friend and be the greatest collector of his paintings because he is in his right mind and looks better than ever, welcome.

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