Now more than ever, the tension between the European Union and the United Kingdom can be cut.

This is due to legal steps that the EU wants to take in response to the controversial 'Brexit law'.

In addition, the time keeps ticking on before reaching a trade agreement.

We talk to Europe expert Rem Korteweg from the Clingendael Institute about this new chapter in the 'Brexitsoap'.

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