Portland’s arsenal was full to the brim on March 30, 1926. About 5,000 people had come to watch the match of the professional boxing dwarf series of the Pacific Coast Championship.

The same large boxing audience had never been seen in the entire state of Oregon.

The $ 7,584 accumulated at the box office was also a new record of its kind.

That is almost 100,000 euros in today's money.

No wonder.

The magazines had written for days about the struggle between the city’s own son Chuck Hellman and the Young Nationalist of the Philippines.

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Hellman was in the winning streak.

In the previous match, Dixie LaHood, who was ranked in the top ten of the series, had been defeated.

The Portland magazines spoke of Hellman as the uncrowned world champion and expected him to soon challenge Charley Rosenberg, who defended his championship belt in New York at a leisurely pace.

The Managers of the players played with their mouths in the columns of the magazines.

Sunday Oregonian released a pair of pictures of the battle pair.

Young Nationalista posed for a shirt in a boxing position, Hellman and his wife presented the 10-pound salmon they caught.

The gem store in downtown Portland exhibited a $ 500 gold-plated championship belt that the winner should keep forever.

The fight became fierce and bloody, but after ten rounds, the judges were unanimous: Hellman’s tireless body bombing was rewarded with a point win.

Hellman wore a golden belt on his hips and set off with a smile to clear his way into the locker room through a crowd of admirers.

He had just struck one of the biggest victories in Finnish boxing history, but hardly anyone in Finland knew about the match.

Handcuffs at the dock

Ilmo Lounasheimo, the most important documentary filmmaker in Finnish boxing history, began to devour information about the sport as a schoolboy in the early 1930s in the reading room of the city of Kajaani.

Yet he, too, heard of Hellman's great victory only more than 60 years later.

When Lounasheimo published his masterpiece The Heroes of the Ring in 1987, he had little information about Hellman.

The lunch tribe mentioned him in passing as one of the Finnish immigrant boxers and said that he played some matches in America in the 1920s.

Six years later, Lounasheimo wrote an article in the EP Boxer magazine about the first Finnish-born boxers in the American professional ring.

He called Kalle Hellman by far the best of these.

Now Lounasheimo already knew 60 matches played by Hellman.

- Information I have received recently from the American boxing historian V. Luckett Davis, who is a true qualified in these matters, Lounasheimo wrote.

Hellman's personal history was not known to the South Tribe, except he was born in Turku in 1903 and moved to the United States in 1910. Both years are incorrect, and the name Kalle is not mentioned in the original sources either.

An article about Hellman, written by Antero Tanskanen, was published in Ringside in 2004.

Its information was mainly based on a story published in Kiri magazine in 1930.

- It is said that while working as a young man in a shipyard, he often got caught up with his fiery Italian colleagues, soon attracting attention as a skilled fist user despite his small size.

Tanskanen estimates that Hellman was a boxer almost like Gunnar Bärlund.

In his career, Hellman defeated the future world champion of the fly series and played an unsolved dwarf series with the future champion.

In his 1926 rankings, the boxing bible Ring ranked Hellman in the dwarf series as the seventh best boxer in the world.

Since then, only six Finns have reached the top ten on the list.

- It is said that the boxing crowd on the west coast rushed in large numbers to watch the events where Hellman performed.

It is said he was considered a perimeter worker on all sides of the coast from Portland to San Francisco, the Dane wrote.

A local newspaper anticipates Chuck Hellman’s match against “Salem’s most popular contestant”.

According to the boxing statistics database Boxrec, Chuck Hellman’s original name was Charles Michael Hellman and his citizenship was USA.

Boxrec has recorded 58 matches for Hellman between 1921 and 1928, of which 33 were wins, 10 were losses and 15 were unsolved.

Boxrec knows Hellman's real date and place of birth: September 24, 1902 in Turku.

He is reported dead on August 15, 1986 in Portland.

It has everything that Hellman has known so far: a match list, a few years, a couple of funny anecdotes.

He is never mentioned in discussions about the best Finnish boxers in history, even if he is easily included in the list for his achievements.

Hellman is not known even in Finnish boxing circles.

Did he speak Finnish?

Was he really even Finnish?

The boys of Turku

The Lunch Tribe used to rely on archives and correspondence, but today historians are assisted by internet databases.

Public documents have been linked to sites dedicated to genealogy.

The sites show that Charles Michael Hellman was actually born in Turku, but his first name was Karl Mikael Hellman.

His father was named Karl Ludvig Hellman and his mother Fanny Amanda os.


Both were born in 1875.

Karl Mikael had two big brothers, but Aarne died at the age of nine months and Martin under the age of two in March 1903. The father of the family had already been issued a passport in December 1902, and also marked his wife and two children.

There are passenger lists of ships arriving in the United States from Europe online.

Fanny Hellman appears with his son who arrived in New York on June 19, 1904 on MS Adrian.

He boarded a ship in Helsingborg, Sweden, 17 days earlier.

According to the passenger list, Fanny Hellmann had $ 15 with him, and his destination was marked Sacramento, California.

Karlia, the father of the family, cannot be found in the passenger list.

The 1910 census says he arrived in the country in 1903. We don’t know why his father traveled ahead.

Perhaps the parents thought that the only surviving child in the family was still too young to take the trip.


 A copy of the form on which Hellman applied for U.S. citizenship can be found online.

He signed it on December 4, 1936. The scars on the chin and above both eyes have been reported as hallmarks.

Traces of boxing.

The family grew up in America.

Henry Ludvig was born in Sacramento in 1905. Since then, every other spring, the Hellman family received a newcomer: Fannie Marie, Edwin John, and eventually the pit Albert William.

At the time of the 1910 census, the Hellmans already lived in Portland, which had a fairly large Finnish community.

Father Karl's profession is marked by a foundry.

Charles had now changed the spelling of both father's and son's names.

In the 1920 census, the mother tongue was asked.

18-year-old Charles Jr. reads Finnish.

He has stated that he is a farm worker.

He lived with his brothers as subtenants of a Swedish couple on the east bank of the Willamette River in Portland.

There is no record of the father.

The brothers' mother had died the previous year.

In August of the following year, Hellman made his professional boxing debut.

His career ended in 1928.

A copy of the form on which Hellman applied for U.S. citizenship can be found online.

He signed it on December 4, 1936. The scars on the chin and above both eyes have been reported as hallmarks.

Traces of boxing.

The profession is the same as that of a father: a foundry.

Hellman promises to renounce Finnish citizenship.

Hellman was such a significant person that when he died, Oregonian magazine published a memoir.

It tells us that Hellman was a devout Seventh-day Adventist.

He owned a gas station in Portland with his wife Nina.

The couple had three daughters and took care of Nina's sister's three sons in 1940 when their parents died.

In 1974, Hellman was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, and in 1982, he moved into a nursing home.

He fell down the stairs on June 15, 1986, and was in bed care until his death three months later.

Imprint on Facebook

Hellman was thus a Finnish citizen throughout his boxing career and spoke Finnish as his mother tongue.

We know in general terms the course of his sports career and the later stages of his life.

The image is still blurry.

What kind of man and what kind of boxer was Hellman?

Did he consider himself Finnish?

Could any of Hellman’s children still be alive and fit enough to tell about their father?

There are no common number services in the United States where people can easily find people’s contacts.

The best way to reach people is through social media, but all of Hellman’s children are over the age of 80 and their peers aren’t usually active in some.

However, one of Hellman’s adoptive boys, Roy Wesson, has a Facebook page.

He published a profile picture of himself and his wife three years ago.

The wife’s name matches the marriage certificate found through the genealogy site.

There are no recent updates on the page.

- Great to see you and Mom, a woman named Sally has commented on the picture.

The latest update on Sally’s own Facebook page is less than a day old.

In it, she says her parents are going into convalescent care and are currently being cared for by Sally’s sister Laurie.

A Google search will find a number for Sally.

Surprisingly, it is answered by an old, fragile male voice.

- I'm pursuing Roy Wesson.

- On the phone.

- I've authored articles on a boxer from Charles Hellman, who was the father, I understand.

- Yes, he was a dwarf series.

It quickly turns out that Wesson is too weak to talk any more.

I ask if Laurie is possibly nearby.

After a long wait, Laurie arrives on the phone.

She says two of Hellman’s daughters are still alive and in good condition.

Shirley Chiburis lives in California, Wanda Petersen in Oregon.

I'll call Wanda.

Soon the 91-year-old woman says she drove 500 miles the car the previous weekend and laughs brightly on.

He says he owns a thick scrapbook about his father and welcomes to look at it in Oregon.

A week later, Roy Wesson dies.


Monitor is a small village surrounded by vineyards about a 40 minute drive south of downtown Portland.

Wanda Petersen’s modest detached house is located on a plot bordered by a small river.

Inside is like the way old people are at home.

There is a lot of paper, photos and ornaments to accumulate in 90 years.

Petersen has dug out a scrapbook and boxing glove his father has worn in his time.

The glove filled with horsehair is only slightly thicker than the winter glove.

It is a concrete reminder of how intense the boxing of the 1920s was.

The hardness of boxing was in a different range in the 1920s. Photo: Wanda Petersen's home album

In 1920s America, only baseball competed for popularity with boxing.

King Dempsey of the heavyweight series was the most popular athlete in the country alongside Babe Ruth.

In the United States, more than 5,000 professional boxing events were held each year, nearly ten times more than today.

There were only eight series at the time and one recognized world champion in each.

Dempsey was the richest athlete in the world, but the champions of the smaller weight classes also earned huge match prizes.

Thousands of hopeful entrepreneurs fought for a place in the sun.

Dempsey was a penniless tramp when he began his boxing career, and the majority of boxers struggled in his way out of poverty.

First- and second-generation immigrants were strongly overrepresented among boxers: Italians, Jews, Poles, Filipinos, and so on fought each other in the ring.

There were also a few Finnish entrepreneurs.

Most of them dedicated the sport behind the seas, as the first boxing competitions in Finland were not held until October 1921. Finland's first professional boxing event could be expected until 1935.

When the amateur boxers hit the Helsinki Hippodrome for the first time in Finland, Chuck Hellman had already had time to fight as a professional.

He won his debut with points.

The reward for a four-round match was equal to the caster's daily salary.

Extracted from the scrapbook

Examining the scrapbook compiled by Hellman’s daughters shows how significant a sport of boxing was in the 1920s.

An article has been written about almost all of Hellman’s matches, and the most important text is on the side store.

The forgotten chapter in Finnish sports history opens piece by piece.

To begin with, Hellman's matches are only the result or a brief description:

- Chuck Hellman hit Jerry Terry in the stomach, and the whole thing was over in one installment.

- In the first preliminaries, “Silent” Martin, who is reportedly deaf and dumb, gave up in the third round after feeling Chuck Hellman too hard.

Let's live the time of the Prohibition Act.

After Hellman has already hit a dozen matches without a single loss, one reporter seeks a metaphor for the boxer’s growing popularity for beer cravings.

- The little Portland dwarf series is about as popular in Seattle and Tacoma as a bottle of Buddia would be among you, me and other thirsty people.

As the boxer’s reputation grows, magazines also begin to write portraits of him.

In April 1922, Hellman's manager Jack Capri says he found his shelter at the Portland shipyard.

- He just boxed for fun at the dock, and his innate abilities caught my attention.

I lured him into becoming a professional, and he did.

From the auditorium to the ring

At that time, point judges were rarely used, and the ring referee readily declared full-time matches unresolved.

Hellman had time to fight twenty times before the first loss was credited to his account.

Experienced Billy Mascott was declared the winner of a 10-game match with points.

At this point in Hellman’s career, something special seems to have happened.

He had been out of the match for nearly eight months, having been monthly before the matches.

The break ended in a peculiar way: Hellman had come to watch a boxing night at Portland’s arsenal, where Mascott had to face Teddy Seidman of New York.

However, Mascott suddenly fell ill, and Hellman offered to take his place.

The ten-round battle ended in an unresolved, and Hellman received wild applause.

Capri told reporters that Hellman came into the match after doing a full day at the foundry.

Hellman fought against Seidman two months later again unresolved.

After that, he was not seen in the Portland ring for more than a year.

Some later articles mention that Hellman’s match style did not inspire Portland boxing fans at the time.

Hellman was known as an enterprising but low-impact boxer.

Portland’s boxing culture was still thin at the time, professional boxing had been banned in the city until 1915.

Although Portland Boxing Commission matchmaker Harry Hansen did not match Hellman, manager Capri was not left without a chance.

He set out to tour the West Coast perimeter with his protector: matches were found especially in Seattle and San Francisco, which at the time were a major boxing center.

Hellman began to garner prestige in California.

He was described as a very active boxer with exceptionally dangerous body shocks.

Although there were also losses on the match list, the level of opponents was tough.

Hellman took revenge from Mascott with a knockout.

He lost points to California Joe Lynch, but also offset this loss in a rematch.

The same pattern was repeated in two matches against the esteemed Doc Snell.

After the Snell victory, Capri sent a letter to Portland reporters in which he praised California promoters for paying for any of Hellman’s services.


 He was described as a very active boxer with exceptionally dangerous body shocks.

In his next match on October 22, 1925, Hellman faced Abe Goldstein in San Francisco, who had been the world champion in the dwarf series just ten months earlier.

Ring judge Bobby Johnson declared Goldstein the point winner after ten rounds.

Some newspapers expressed dissenting views on the verdict in their headlines:

“Goldstein wins an unpopular scoring judgment”.

“The judge of the ring judge is a gift to the ex-world champion of the dwarf series”

"Hellman wins, but Goldstein gets the verdict"

The time was ripe for Hellman’s return to his hometown.

The Portland Commission matchmaker had been replaced by Joe Waterman, who realized Hellman had become one of the best dwarfs in the country at the age of 23.

Numerous rematch wins showed that Hellman, who had been boxing for five years, was constantly evolving.

He had also changed his style to be more aggressive.

Manager Capri began talking about challenging world champion Rosenberg.

In the profession of a puglist

Hellman had married in June 1923, six days after he had suffered the first defeat of his career for Billy Mascott.

Hellman’s daughter, Wanda Petersen, says her father was working at the time in a locomotive garage in neighboring Portland, Vancouver, Washington.

One of his colleagues was Ferris Squires, who mentioned the young boxer to his daughter Nina.

- Mom wanted to know who this guy really was.

That's the way they met, Petersen says.

The young couple moved to the St. Johns district of Portland.

Thanks to his perimeter success, Hellman was able to leave other jobs.

The Portland City Address Directory of 1927 lists his profession as a “pugist”.

According to Wanda Petersen, her mother Nina strongly supported her husband’s boxing career.

Nina used to rub her husband’s ears to save her from cauliflower ears.

- He always sucked a lemon before he went to the arena because it makes the boxer fight-minded, Petersen says.

Petersen says his mother followed his father to the match venues, but always stayed at the hotel for the duration of the matches.

Mom later recalled match trips and restaurant meals with warmth.

They were a luxury to the daughter of a railway worker.

Wanda Petersen and father's former glove. Photo: Wanda Petersen's home album

Half a year's salary

The year 1926 was the best in Hellman's career.

He played in the Portland Arsenal ten times.

No longer was the hometown audience alienated from his style.

The box offices were filled with banknotes, and Hellman also got his share.

After winning the Pacific Coast Championship, Hellman defended the title in a rematch against Young Nationalist.

The result was again a points win.

Waterman tried to lure champion Rosenberg to Portland, but according to Oregonian magazine, Rosenberg demanded a $ 3,500 match fee and the right to bring his own ring referee from New York.

In addition, Rosenberg would have liked the World Cup not to be a stake in the match.

The match didn’t materialize, but third-ranked “Terre Haute’s light terror” Bud Taylor agreed to come to Portland for $ 2,400.

Hellman received $ 1,400.

In Portland, a union foundry was allowed to work for half a year to achieve the same.

The match ended in a draw.

4,100 spectators paid a total of $ 7,959 for tickets.

The amount remained a Portland record for decades.

A year later, Taylor became the world champion in the dwarf series.

In his next match, Hellman broke Howard Mayberry into delivery in four innings.

Prior to the match, Capri praised his defender for earning nearly $ 2,000 from the match.

Hellman lost his next match by points against George Marks but won his replay three weeks later, as usual.

The ten-match tube in the arsenal ended in a point loss to New Yorker Izzy Schwartz, who was ranked sixth in the fly series.

It was time to go east.

“Durability and hardness as a legacy”

The reason is not clear from newspaper clippings, but sometimes at the turn of 1926 and 1927, the collaboration between Hellman and manager Jack Capri ended.

On April 22, 1927, Jimmy Woods, a columnist for the Times Union appearing in Brooklyn, New York, wrote that Brooklyn manager Larry Hall had taken Hellman under his protection.

In his first match in New York on June 6, Hellman took revenge on Schwartz, who became world champion in the fly series six months later.

The match at Dexter Park in Queens was an audience success, and three weeks later Hellman faced Dominick Petronen in the same arena.

In the second installment, Petrone's right-hand blow opened a deep wound over Hellman's left eye, bleeding into his eye throughout the match.

Petrone won the fierce battle with points.

New York newspapers constantly called Hellman Finnish, but West Coast newspapers rarely emphasized his origins.

It might have been mentioned as a curiosity, as in a portrait published by the Tacoma News Tribune in February 1926:

- Durability and hardness are his legacy.

He comes from the country that gave the world Nurmi, Ritola and Thunberg - Finland.

His very essence is the same as what is connected to Nurme, the Finnish lightning of tracks.

“Hell-Man of Oregon” is a Stoic little man, quiet and serious like an owl.


 He comes from the country that gave the world Nurmi, Ritola and Thunberg - Finland.

However, the magazine made it clear that Hellman is American.

It did not mention that the boxer was still a Finnish citizen.

- The Oregon hellman does not swear allegiance to Finland but to Uncle Samul.

That's the way it should be.

Hellman left Finland with his parents, barely old enough to swing his clenched fist, but he brought with him in his blood all the great athletic qualities that the people of his native country seem to have.

The American-Finnish newspaper New York News shared the exact opposite.

- H. was born in Finland, but moved to this country as a bad shirt shirt.

He has always performed as a Finn.

A couple of days before the match between Hellman and Petrone, Brooklyn Citizen wrote that 300 Finns were coming to the auditorium - among them Olympic champion Ville Ritola and honorary consul KF Altio.

According to the article, Hellman and Ritola had been acquaintances for a long time.

Rolls of tobacco

It is impossible to assess how Finnish Hellman felt.

The writings of the newspapers were probably strongly influenced by the words of his managers.

Probably Capri did not believe that Finnishness was a special selling point on the West Coast.

Hall, on the other hand, might have thought that the large Finnish community in New York would support Hellman in the same way as, say, the Italians and the Irish.

Wanda Petersen does not remember Hellman's participation in the Finnish community in Oregon.

The main reference group for the family was the church.

They never visited Finland.

There is still something left of Finnish culture.

In the middle of an interview, Shirley Chiburis calls her sister and asks me what was meant by the “tobacco roll” of the song songs from 80 years ago.

A hellman from Oregon following in the footsteps of Nurmi, Ritola and Thunberg.

Why didn't the news of Hellman's victory spread to Finland in time?

He was as Finnish as “Peräseinäjoki wolf” Ville Ritola, who also moved to America as a chick and only started his sports career behind the sea.

Ritola was a celebrated hero in Finland, whose runs were closely monitored.

Hellman's achievements in the American ring were comparable to those of Gunnar Bärlund, and “GeeBee” became Ritolaak's greater hero in Finland in the 1930s.

- In the early 1920s, professional boxing was hardly followed in Finland.

There were no men of their own, and the greatest names like Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney were known mainly from the world.

It is therefore not surprising that a compatriot fighting on the west coast of the USA remained unknown, especially when his name was not recognizably Finnish, Vesa Tikander of the Sports Museum reflects.

- Of course, the news threshold would have been exceeded if he had been able to compete in the world championship.

GeeBee's situation was already different: he was already a star in the ring of Europe and appeared in America specifically as Finland's representative.

Of course, men in the heavyweight series also always have more weight.

Never knocked out

Hellman’s conquest of New York eventually ended short.

Hall agreed for Hellman in August against Pancho Dencio, a Filipino, but it was canceled on match day.

New York News wrote that the New York Boxing Commission released Hellman from the match "on the grounds that the contract had been made and signed by Hellman's manager himself without any knowledge of it until three days before the night of the fight."

Shortly afterwards, the same newspaper reported that the Commission had canceled the contract between Hellman and his manager.

Hellman returned to Portland, where he was later taken over by former boxer Bobby Evans, a suspect in mafia connections.

In November 1927, Hellman took his last major victory when he defeated the top name in the fly series, Johnny McCoy, in the Portland Arsenal.

That night, Nina gave birth to a couple’s first-daughter, Lois Marie, who died two years ago at the age of 90.

Just two months later, Hellman played his last match.

He lost points to Dixie LaHood in his hometown of Montana Butte.

Hellman was only 25 years old and had never been knocked out.

What made him quit suddenly?

Daughter Wanda says the reason.

The Hellmans had joined the Adventist Church in late 1927, following Nina's parents.

First, Hellman refused to play on a Sabbath Friday night through Saturday night.

Then he decided to quit altogether.

"The church didn't really appreciate trying to knock someone off," Petersen laughs.

No more writing about the Oregon hell man in the papers.

The retina came off

Hellman moved with his family to rural Oregon in 1932, but they returned to Portland four years later.

Hellman worked at the foundry until he and his wife set up to run a gas station in the St. Johns district.

They later bought the station for themselves.

Wanda Petersen remembers her father as a warm and well-liked person who enjoyed fishing, music, all kinds of sports and reading.

Although Hellman did not consider the profession of boxer to fit his beliefs, he nevertheless coached junior boxers after his career.

One of them punched Hellman in the eye during the exercises so that his retina came off.

Hellman lost his sight from one eye for the rest of his life.

In the 1970s, Hellman began to change.

He went to a neighbor's house, thinking it was his own.

In the past, a gentle man began to behave aggressively.

The cause was revealed Alzheimer's disease.

All of Hellman’s children have lived to be old, and none of them have been diagnosed with memory problems.

Wanda Petersen believes her father Alzheimer was involved in boxing.

Chuck Hellman told his children how he might have lost his local memory for days after matches.

Hellman recalled his career in an interview with Oregonian magazine in 1963.

- I wasn't actually sick, but even though I was strong enough for my casting work, I had problems with my teeth and was sick from time to time.

All of this ended when I started a hard boxing practice.

Even my teeth healed, I don’t know why, Hellman said.

- Would I resume my career as a boxer in the same circumstances?

I think I would.

I'm boxing a lot of debt, but I do not push the youths to anyone unless he has as well as gifts that will.

Grassed grave

The Columbia River flows between the cities of Portland and Vancouver.

It meanders another 150 miles to the northwest before the waters mix with the vast Pacific Ocean.

The Columbia River separates not only the two cities, but also the states of Oregon and Washington.

The evening is blurring as I steer my rental car to the Vancouver side.

Park Hill Cemetery is just half a mile from the river bank.

Chuck Hellman's resting place should be found there.

According to the Find a Grave site, the mass grave of Hellman and his wife is in Block C.

It doesn’t help much, as there are hundreds of graves in Block C.

The oldest tombstones are 150 years old.

Finnish names also stand out from worn stones, but Hellman can not be found anywhere.

I call Petersen, who says his parents 'grave is near Nina's parents' grave.

In the cemetery, the visiting couple offers to help, and soon they find the Squires ’tombstone, which is buried in the ground.

With my shoe, I clean the grass from a nearby rock, and from there it is revealed: Hellman.

I spend a moment by the grave in the fading light.

Too bad I haven’t brought any flowers or candles with me.

Karl Mikael Hellman, who was born on the banks of the Aura River, filled the auditoriums of American arenas and sang his children to sleep in Finnish, would have deserved them.

The article continues with an armpit after the picture.

Hellman's Tombstone was found near the Columbia River. Photo: Mikko Marttinen / IS

Experts: Hellman is one of the great ones

Urheilulehti gave the above article to be read in advance to a group of people familiar with the history of boxing and asked them to rate Chuck Hellman's place among the best professional boxers of all time in Finland.

Jussi Niemonen, a professional boxing judge and expert in boxing history, considers Olli Mäki and Gunnar Bärlund to be the clear top two, but immediately raises Hellman's position to third.

- The fact that Hellman faced the former, current or future Ring magazine's top-10 world listings 13 times in his career is quite a huge number compared to our current boxers, but still pales badly for GeeBee's (26) not to mention Olli's downright confusing (31) reading.

Even Hellman's best wins are not exactly like that duo, Niemonen explains.

Petro Koskimies is a boxing coach and collector of boxing literature.

Hellman ranks second on his list.

- I would not put Hellman ahead of Gunnar Bärlund on my list, but Olli Mäki, Elis Ask and Risto Luukkonen will give a place in my papers to a “newcomer”, Koskimies estimates.

Petri Paimander, who has worked in many roles in Finnish boxing, is one of the historians in the Boxrec database.

- Without a doubt, Hellman goes to the same group of internationally high-ranking contestants that I once counted Bärlund, Ask, Luukkonen and Mäki.

Since then, Amin Asikainen, Robert Helenius and Edis Tatli have also risen.

This eight will take a clear distinction with Pekka Kokkonen and Tarmo Uusivirta, Paimander says.

Paimander doesn’t want to list boxers whose careers are still pending.

In his rankings, Hellman ranks fifth.

Boxing narrator and author Janne Romppainen places Hellman 4–5.

- Bärlund and Ask maybe even got a whit closer to the World Cup title or match, and Mäki was also in his best glory so close to the best in the world that I don't dare put Hellman ahead of them.

Hellman's obvious and astonishing performance, on the other hand, is a feature in which many Finnish boxers have not reached a similar level, and on that basis I would elevate him past the stars of later times, Romppainen explains.