Consultations in Mali: the draft of the transition charter under debate

In Mali, national consultations are held at the Bamako Conference Center.

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National consultations on the transition end this Saturday in Mali.

Friday, the day was devoted to discussions on the charter of the transition proposed by the committee of experts appointed by the junta.

The document notably proposes a two-year transition, and a civilian or military transition president.

The debates have often been heated.

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Our correspondent in Bamako 

Serge Daniel

met two participants who excite the debate and tackle the basic problems.

The first is called Moustapha Doucouré, training manager, very active during consultation days.

For him, to lead the transition, you need a civilian.

“ 

The soldiers do not have enough experience,

 ” he said.

Opposite Moustapha, another participant, Oumar Alassane Touré, member of the “Front for National Defense” platform.

According to him, the junta must play a central role during the transition.

“ 

We cannot rule out the junta.

As we say in the jargon, one cannot refuse to the one who slaughters the bull to recover its head.

 "

A civilian at the head of the transition or a soldier?

The proposed charter gives the junta the power to choose.

The working document includes several bodies, including a government, and a legislative body.

Other topics are debating: for example, the duration of the transition.

The charter proposes two years.

The opinion of Moustapha, participating in the consultations, is that in “ 

12 months, we can settle everything. 

"Replica of another participant, Oumar Alassane Touré:" 

You have to go around 18 or 22 months.

 Like others, our two interlocutors are calling for a profound overhaul of the Malian state.

Towards institutional reform?

For the Malian Human Rights Association, the transition could last two years provided it is led by an apolitical civilian, and that this period is used to fight against impunity and in-depth reform of institutions. , especially electoral.

Drissa Traoré is the coordinator of AMDH.

One of the factors of this socio-political crisis is the management of the elections," he

explains at the microphone of Coralie Pierret.

To avoid a recurrence of a post-electoral crisis, it will be imperative to move on to legislative and constitutional reforms, which will affect aspects linked, for example, to the Constitutional Court.

And this reform goes beyond the Constitutional Court.

It must also affect the electoral law, which does not provide for certain good practices, such as the publication of the results polling station by polling station.

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It must also affect the High Court of Justice.

It's true, it has nothing to do with elections, but it can help in the fight against impunity, and in particular impunity linked to corruption.

Today, magistrates sometimes do not have a free hand.

That is going to take time.

People can ask themselves the question: "Should we wait for reforms before the elections?"

For us, it is obvious that we must have the reforms before the elections, so that the same causes do not produce the same effects.

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The end of M5?

While the consultations continue, the dissensions within the M5-RFP are accentuated and confirmed.

For part of this motley protest movement, made up of politicians, clerics and representatives of civil society, the page must now turn.

Since the coup d'état, meetings with the junta have always faced a united M5.

But now, for CMAS, the movement of Imam Dicko, the M5 no longer speaks with one voice.

For CMAS coordinator Issa Kaou Djim, the former ministers of ousted president IBK, some of whom are part of M5, should not participate in the transition.

“ 

You have political parties, you have unions, you have Islamic associations, you have civil society figures,” he

enumerates at the microphone of

Coralie Pierret

.

So today, we no longer have the same goals for the transition.

Are the Malian people in the logic of leading power to the leaders of political parties?

I do not think so.

So the position of CMAS is not modeled on the position of political parties.

If the leaders of political parties are so legitimate, they just have to go to the elections!

If they win the election, there are no more problems.

And if it doesn't, the transition shouldn't be a stepping stone.

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