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New York, 1973. Like a flamboyant blooming in stability (now he has a husband and daughter) after a youth of excesses, the American troubadour Rufus Wainwright publishes this Friday his album 'Unfollow the rules'.

How has your idea of ​​beauty changed over time? Look, five seconds ago I was in a restaurant and I saw that there were two disabled young people with their mother or whoever, with enough problems to eat. And it was such a beautiful thing: suddenly a flash of compassion. There are certain things in life that are scary when you are young, such as illness, pain and death. And when you get older you start to find them ... I wouldn't say beautiful, but they move you in a beautiful way. Is that what you want with this album? I wanted to pay tribute to that old-fashioned concept, to that dying art that is Record a Disc. A very powerful tool for humanity to understand our nature. So this album is specifically a protective barrier around this experience. You have had a loose life that almost took you to your grave. He also talks about it on the album. How does that look now? I've always seen it as a tree. Now I am a fairly tall tree with many branches, some very distant from each other. For example, that reckless Rufus who was looking for a brutal answer. I am very proud of him and I think I have lived a full life. If I died tomorrow, which I do not think will happen, I would be satisfied with the world I have created for myself. Another thing is that as a husband, father and person who begins to see friends and family die, I am discovering a new territory of pain and suffering. 'Unfollow the rules', the song, does it have anything to do with psychoanalysis? Yes. In one session, a friend of mine realized that she had been brutally raped 10 years earlier and had forgotten. I myself have done a lot of psychoanalysis during the making of the album. And, as a parent, I have realized the impression that certain events can cause in the life of a child, to the point of accompanying him throughout his life. But is that the idea that the album argues? It is rather a duality . On the one hand, the need to reevaluate the rules, look back, see the origin and think about whether a rule should exist or not. But also this concept of the XXI century of "stop following" ('unfollow') someone on Facebook or Instagram, as if you could suddenly destroy it or pretend it had never existed. His previous project was an opera. What is it like to return to pop? I have been making pop records for many years and every time I released one it was as if I was not close, not even remotely, to what was cooking in that world, as if it were the least pop in the world . Furthermore, the world of classical is fascinating, with a love of detail that I love. But there is also an inhuman, cold and myopic sensitivity. I like both worlds. Maybe I'm the only pop musician who understands and respects opera the same way. You are very active against Trump. But in this album there is nothing like that. This is not a political album, because I think we have suffered enough inhumanity and the priority is to alleviate our battered soul. Because the answer to problems in the United States is simple: go vote. It's the only thing to do. What do you expect from the fall presidential election? Everyone is angry and concerned. If you are an activist, you have to be careful because there are many weapons and there are many violent emotions. That is why we have to keep forces, so that when the 'fight' comes in the elections, we are fresh. Her daughter is the granddaughter of Leonard Cohen through Lorca, his daughter, who conceived it. Do you consider yourself your heir, both familiarly and musically? Going back to before, Cohen was incredibly impressed that I wrote operas. It fascinated him because it was something he knew he could never do - he was on a different journey - and he really admired me for it. I think he also admired my songs, although I didn't ask him too much, out of respect. But the key is that you want to be the best you can be. If you wonder if you want to be as good as him or like John Lennon, at least you want to try. I do not say better, but neither to see them as gods.

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