Company manager Gunilla von Platen describes in the program the reality for entrepreneurs who are behind such figures.

- It's been a carnage out there. Every day people have called me and cried and said that "my whole life's work is totally blown away". It has been hugely tough, and still tough.

Ever since the crisis began, and especially now that the world is opening up again, it is debated whether the restrictions that lowered the economy have been too harsh or not. Save life now or life later? Where "late" means the human suffering that comes with unemployment, and in some parts of the world - starvation.

Johanna Möllerström, professor of economics at George Mason University in Washington, is a behavioral economist and states that it is understandable that it is easier to respond to the dangers that are evident right now, than those who are waiting late.

- Life stands against life. Of course, we as humans should feel very strongly about life right now. But when politicians have to make decisions, they must have both perspectives at the same time.

Uniting economic and epidemiological

John Hassler, together with other researchers, has initiated research on how to combine economic models with epidemiological, in order to find the measures that reduce the spread of infection without causing unnecessary harm to the economy. He thinks that perspective is lacking in the government's work, where he believes that they have acted unplanned.

- There should be a centrally placed crisis group headed by the Prime Minister who can provide both economic and epidemiological skills so that the right balances can be made. It is found in other countries, for example in Norway and Denmark, but not in Sweden.

The economy is now almost entirely governed by the pandemic. The small flashes of light that have recently emerged, if not quite as catastrophic unemployment in the US as feared, and somewhat better situation in Sweden than the rest of the EU, can quickly darken again if there is a second wave of infections with new shutdowns. But Gustaf Arrhenius, CEO of the Institute for Future Studies believes that we will act differently then.

- Absolutely! It has already become a habit. There are now greater demands for normality and lower acceptance for far-reaching measures and consequences. People will not accept as much intervention again.

See section "How much do you cost?" on how to put a price on saved lives and ruined economy. SVT Play from 19.00 and SVT2 22.15 on Thursday.