From his home in Oslo, Fredrik Skavlan interviews the therapist and author Esther Perel in the first section of the program Skavlan + 1.

- Would you say that this crisis is the ultimate stress test for a couple? asks Fredrik Skavlan.

- When you feel that life is short, it can go in two different directions: "Let's have children and get married!" Or the opposite: "Life is short, I leave," explains Esther Perel, one of the world's most profiled couples therapists.

Now Esther Perel predicts that the corona crisis can lead to baby boom - and many divorces.

Hear her tell more in the clip above.