Interviewed / Abdul Hamid Qutb

The President of the "Sudan Renaissance Alliance", Al-Tijani Sisi stressed that the best solution to face the challenges and crises in the country and ensure the smooth progress of the transitional process is the existence of a process of consensus between the political forces, pointing out that the forces of freedom and change are excluded, and they seek to isolate the political scene, and remove all other political components. .

The head of the Liberation and Justice Movement in Darfur, who signed the Doha Peace Agreement, in his dialogue with Al-Jazeera Net, called for an inclusive conference for all Sudanese powers to resolve problems and reach successful solutions to the economic crisis, and agree on the optimal system of governance and the identity of the state, explaining that the current stage requires attention to how Sudan is governed and not Who rules.

He pointed out that the Doha peace agreement is still standing, and the alternative authority exists and the delegations are present, indicating that all countries that have declared support for Sudan have not fulfilled their obligations, except for Qatar, Turkey and the European Union.
Following is the text of the interview:

As one of the forces that signed the peace agreement with the regime of the ousted president, Omar al-Bashir, why were these forces absent from the scene, and were they really excluded?

The Sudanese forces that signed the Comprehensive Peace Agreement with the previous regime are present, and as part of these forces we have moved from the Liberation and Justice Movement to the Liberation and Justice Party, and we previously participated in the elections within a parliamentary bloc, and we formed the Sudan Renaissance Alliance consisting of six parties and two movements.

In our role, and in accordance with the national requirements, we met in the Nahdat Sudan alliance with the military council and the leaders of the forces of freedom and change after the fall of the regime, and we showed them our opinion of the challenges Sudan is witnessing, and we informed them of our willingness to help in order to save Sudan, because we see the unity of Sudan, uniting its people and creating a process of consensus between the political forces. The solution Optimized to face challenges and crises and ensure the smooth and sound transition process.

But why did you not merge into the forces of freedom and change as one of the most prominent political forces on the ground?
Because the forces of freedom and change are exclusionary, and you want to be unique in the political scene, and exclude its competitors, whether those who participated with the previous regime, or the parties and movements that signed the peace agreement with him, or other political forces. However, we gave them advice and warned them against exclusion and exclusivity in the scene, especially in a country that has a clear targeting process, such as Sudan.

How did you follow the clashes that took place the past few days between the army and some of the security forces that were discharged from service?

There is no doubt, there is political tension, political and professional polarization, tribalism, and security problems in some regions, in addition to the deterioration of economic conditions due to the embargo imposed by the United States, which greatly affected the living conditions of citizens, and contributed to the exacerbation of crises.

What happened in the past few days is a protest process and not a rebellion as the media called it, and these protesting groups demanded their financial rights, which I estimate are legitimate demands, but they misbehaved when they shot in the air, however, the ruling forces must re-evaluate the situation, and that there be You agree between all components of the people to bring peace and stability and avoid chaos and problems that arise all the time and when.

How do you see the future in light of the challenges that you mentioned?
I had hoped to be reassured about the future of Sudan, but what is happening now is not reassuring, especially in light of the polarizations and major challenges such as economics and peace, and we have called for an inclusive conference to discuss the challenges and agree on the optimal system of governance and the identity of the state, as issues of concern to every citizen and specific forces cannot be unique Formulated or approved without consulting the other components. Thus, if the brothers in "freedom and change" want stability and peace for Sudan, they should call for an inclusive dialogue to resolve all issues and listen to different points of view, so that we can lay the foundations of peace and democracy in the country.

But is it not the right of the participants to overthrow the former regime to exclude all those involved in corruption, repression and persecution against them and the people?
Certainly, exclusion is one of the most important reasons for the fall of the former regime and the creation of strong opposition against it, which contributed to its downfall, but in my estimation that "freedom and change" is going to follow the previous regime by using exclusion for all political forces, even though it participated with the former regime, especially after the signing of the Naivasha Agreement between the regime And the Sudan Liberation Movement, and this does not mean that we forgive those who spoil and commit crimes, but must definitely prosecute and apply justice to it, but we must not include everyone and not generalize the decisions of accountability and exclusion, in order to ensure the cohesion and solidarity of the home front and the unity of the country, and things do not get away.

In light of the foregoing, do you have a clear vision of Sudan emerging from its crises and problems and facing challenges?
The deteriorating economic situation and political divisions between "freedom and change" and other powers, peace with armed movements, security problems and tribal conflicts, all of this falls within the framework of challenges facing Sudan, in addition to the political uncertainty that the scene is witnessing due to the abolition of the political document of the federal system, which resulted It is about neglecting other states and focusing attention on Khartoum, and therefore we are calling for the gathering of all political forces to get out of these crises.

Unfortunately, after the fall of the regime, the forces of freedom and change took care of the ruler of Sudan, and we said that the most important thing is how to govern Sudan? There is no one who rules, and that there is agreement on how to govern Sudan, by calling for an inclusive conference in which we decide the issue of governance, constitution, identity and choice of the federal system or confederation, and the conference is an umbrella to reach an optimal solution to cross the country from the dark tunnel, and there is no objection to it being held inside or Outside Sudan and supported by regional countries.

On mentioning the regional powers, how do you see the Emirati role?
Sudan has suffered from external interventions that have contributed to the complexity of its crises, and this is clear in Darfur, as these interventions have competing political agendas that come at the expense of Sudanese stability, and therefore we must hold the political forces in control of the Sudanese decision and not make it vulnerable to external interventions that only support In return.

Over the past years and since the Norway conference that was held after the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement in 2005, none of the countries supporting Sudan have committed to their obligations, except for Qatar, Turkey and the European Union, who provided support to Sudan in response to the donors conference held in Doha. And I think, if we want the economy to recover, we should not look outside and rely on our local resources, especially as our country is full of goods, and it only needs to manage its resources well and support the agricultural and industrial sectors.

The Turkish President announced the presence of five thousand Sudanese elements fighting alongside Khalifa Haftar in Libya? To whom do you follow these forces, are they regular forces or militias fighting for money?
As far as I know, these groups are fighting in Libya for money and have no affiliation with any party in the system.

But some sources are talking about the presence of rapid support forces fighting in Libya, according to pledges made to the Emirates by Muhammad Hamdan Hamidati, Vice President of the Sovereign Council to support Haftar, which was announced explicitly earlier and revealed by the British Middle East Eye website?
I also learned through social media that the United Nations has denied the presence of rapid support forces in Libya, but that there may be groups that are not systematically followed into the rapid support. Knowing that I absolutely refuse to fight any Sudanese element outside the borders, without a decision by the Sudanese state and after its submission to the relevant institutions, especially that interference in the neighborhood affairs can fall back on the interior negatively, in addition to that the elements fighting in Libya will pose a threat to internal security upon their return To Sudan after the end of the fighting in Libya.

Is the Doha Agreement and its document still in force and effective?
Yes, the Doha Agreement is still standing, and the alternative authority exists and mandates exist, according to the Doha Peace Document which is the basis of the peace process in Darfur recognized by the United Nations and international organizations, but given the state of liquidity that the country is going through, there are some obstacles to the work of the commissioners, in addition to the lack of capabilities That disrupts their role.