• Legislature.Sanchez places Judge Pilar Llop at the head of the Senate
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Pilar Llop (Madrid, 1973) is still speechless. She was a daily combat magistrate in a sexist violence court. He had experiences of international law in Latin America or Eastern Europe . He investigated the violence against women from the guts of the General Council of the Judiciary . He touched the political power in the Government Delegation against Gender Violence . And until she was deputy in the Assembly of Madrid . But she never thought that one day she would be president of the Senate , the fourth authority of the State. Until Pedro Sánchez called her. Prudent, listening, tending to the pact and feminist, Llop is the profile that the acting president seeks for a High House without an absolute socialist majority and full of as peripheral as powerful forces. He likes skiing, an ideal discipline to overcome obstacles. Journalists included.

What does a judge like you do in a political navel like this? I am no longer a judge, now I am in a situation of special services. What I am doing now, as always, is to serve the public. When and how did you hear about his appointment? When the acting president considered it appropriate. Was it weeks, days ... It was long enough. Was he surprised? Yes, he surprised me. It's an exciting task. How did he convince her? He didn't have to convince me. I have the same concept as he of democracy. I would have accompanied you on any project. You are not affiliated with the PSOE, you have a technical and legal profile in the fight against gender violence and international law and you have not starred in a single political controversy. What do you think the government is looking for in you? A profile that is independent, as I am, to run a territorial Chamber where there is multiparty. And that is able to open spaces of consensus and dialogue because we are going to have to talk a lot in this legislature. There are 20 political forces here. And that you are independent, can you generate discomfort in a party accustomed to another operation? Absolutely. It has always incorporated independents. Do you plan to join the PSOE one day? At the moment, I am preserving my status as an independent, because I come from the judicial career. The most prudent thing is to stay in that situation. But I have run for elections on the PSOE list because I am a socialist and feminist. Social democrat. The PSOE threw you the yew to opt for mayor of Madrid and you rejected the offer. Discard that your passage through the Senate is a springboard for a future struggle of the PSOE to recover the Mayor's Office or the Community of Madrid? I have never made that offer, formally at least. My challenge is to preside over the Senate. How did he feel that the independence senators would abide by the Constitution asking for the freedom of the imprisoned politicians, the return of those who call exiles and the proclamation of the Republic? There is a resolution of the Constitutional Court of 1991 and several of the Electoral Board. And the House itself resolved on a letter submitted by a senator of the PP. What the TC said, and I already shared as president, is that as long as the compliance is not empty of content and the promise or the oath is clearly manifested, these formulas must be allowed. Outside the PSOE and the PP, the Senate will it remains in a nationalist, independentist and regionalist chamber. What does that mean right now? The spaces for debate will be exciting. Those forces are legitimately represented. The Senate is a mirror of society, it is what people have voted. And we must meet citizen demands. Territorial cohesion, but also social cohesion. There are issues, such as climate change, with a territorial but also social component: it affects health. Or the empty Spain. As a polyglot, do you already know Catalan, Basque and Galician? Well, greetings, yes. And on Tuesday I greeted in sign language, which is also the official language. You know why we asked, don't you? I know, yes. I spent a year at the Judicial School of Barcelona and there I signed up for Catalan classes. Then I was assigned to Mataró and lived in Girona. I understand Catalan perfectly although it is harder for me to speak it. I never had a problem in any trial. And I was always respected in Spanish. Do you think it's still like that? It's been a long time since I've been there. The Senate must put in value the linguistic wealth of Spain. With whom will a Government agree without an absolute majority the Budgets or the expenditure ceiling? My obligation will be to open that space to all parties. Can you sleep peacefully with ministers of Podemos in the Government? I will be able to sleep peacefully in the expectation that there will be a Government of progress, which we need very much. And I will not be able to sleep peacefully in the face of expectations of poverty, inequality or no solution to climate change. And a government of progress will be able to solve those problems. Do you understand that the Spaniards who two months ago heard Sanchez say that he would not sleep peacefully with ministers of Podemos and that today they see him agree a Government with Churches live all this as a lie of The politicians? What I understood is that there was a blockade. And that nobody wanted second elections. And before the blockades, the only way out of the Constitution is the elections. I appeal to the responsibility of all the parties so that there is a progressive government as soon as possible.He has not answered us.I think so.ERC will end up abstaining and Sanchez will overcome the endowment? The parties must be given time to reach timely agreements .If ERC does not, what should the PSOE do to avoid new elections? What the secretary general of the party considers. There is another way out for Sánchez: the support or technical abstention of Citizens and the PP. I suppose that in Moncloa they will be considering all possible scenarios. What does the blockade that politics has been living since 2015 attribute to? Multipartisanship and fragmentation make it difficult to reach by consensus. I appeal to the parties to the high sights and to the sense of state. How does that marry independentist parties that put a referendum on the table? I am neither of the party, nor can I negotiate; I am the president of all senators. The problem of Catalonia is long, perhaps it is also a historical problem. We must appeal to the dialogue; There is no policy without dialogue. What didn't give him time to do against gender-based violence? Start up the statistics of murdered women outside the scope of the couple or ex-partner. And also those of hospitalized women. What does Vox mean in the fight against sexist violence? Vox has legitimately reached Parliament. It is very important that we do not heed the messages that attempt to break the State Pact. Is Vox a danger to a democratic and fuundamental consensus like this? Parliaments are here to speak. And to convince the contrary. I hope we can convince. And if not, collect majorities to maintain great consensus. Convince any party that does not understand and deny the murder of 55 women this year, 1,033 since 2003, 32 children since 2013 and as many murdered outside the scope of the couple or ex-partner or sexually assaulted. To anyone who denies the existence of that, which is gender-based violence, Vox is not just their politicians. There are 3.6 million people who have not been deceived: they know perfectly well what Vox thinks of gender violence ... Can anyone believe that denying gender violence, giving false data, is not deceiving? I wonder about any match that defends that. Denying gender violence is deceiving. We ask the feminist: how does it lead to preside over a Chamber in which women do not reach 40%? Yes, 39.4% ... After 17 years, two women preside the cameras. And feminists. It is a very powerful message to women. And we will have a woman president of the Government.

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