Gérald Darmanin, Minister of Action and Public Accounts, told the JDD that "the pension reform will be done". Rémy Dessart, journalist at the JDD, tells the scenes of the interview. According to him, the minister is "launched in an operation of explanations to the French" and the government hopes to emerge winner of the showdown of December 5.

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A few days before the December 5th strike, Gérald Darmanin assures him: the pension reform will be done. The Minister of Action and Public Accounts reaffirms his will in an interview published in the JDD. A reform "fair, equilibrium and equity" according to him. Gérald Darmanin says he understands the claims, but also says the government will not back down. The ministers are also meeting Sunday in a working seminar to prepare for the mass mobilization that is coming and to harmonize communication. Rémy Dessart, journalist at the JDD, returns to the microphone of Europe 1 on this interview.

"Gérald Darmanin is clearly launched in an operation of explanations to the French.It assumes that the government will not give up this reform, that it is ready to arrange certain features of the pension system but that it does not want to give up to a system that ensures 'pensions for our children'. "

"He makes a very powerful call to calm"

"Obviously, the minister is aware that the movement will be very powerful, there will be strong opposition, and he says he understands that some are trying to defend their interests," says Rémy Dessart. "He is making a very powerful call to calm, he is asking the unions and political parties involved in these movements to condemn the violence and to try to do everything possible to avoid it."

Behind the words of the minister, the JDD journalist underlines a desire of the government. "This belief that he expresses still means that the government wants to win following the showdown of December 5," he says. "And that may be the main risk for the government."