Paris (AFP)

"We must be careful not to turn this December 5 into a deadly match.We need unions," said High Commissioner Retirement Jean-Paul Delevoye in an interview at 20 minutes.

"Political and trade union leaders know that it will be necessary to overcome this conflict and get out of it.This conflict is legitimate and raises a debate," assures Mr. Delevoye, in a cross talk with Secretary of State for Youth Gabriel Attal.

The latter defended "a reform for young people", since it is about "saving and consolidating" the PAYG system.

"Today, if you work less than 150 hours at the SMIC in the year, you have no right to retire.In the new system, young people who have small jobs in the summer will get points," adds Jean-Paul Delevoye.

For the High Commissioner, the reform "leaves the freedom of choice (...): if you work after 62 years, you will improve your pension and you reduce your retirement." On the contrary, if you want to have less pension and more time for retirement is your choice. "

After the evocation on Wednesday by the Prime Minister of a possible postponement of the application of the reform beyond 2025, Mr. Delevoye confirms that "we can choose a first generation farther from retirement", points-t- he that the generation 1963. "That these hypotheses can be fed and debated, that could disturb the opinion", he admits however, promising "a clarification".

The reform "is emblematic of what is macronism", summarizes Gabriel Attal. "The great strength of our project is to tell young people that uncertainty must first and foremost be seen as a guarantee of freedom," he says, promising "universal protections" through reform.

SNCF, RATP, Air France, DGAC, EDF, heavy vehicles, refineries, teachers, students, policemen, garbage collectors ... the calls multiplied for December 5, inflated by the CGT, FO, FSU, Solidaires - at notable exception of the CFDT-, high school organizations Fidl, MNL, UNL and student Unef.

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