The Mexican singer releases her new single 'If they knew', in which you settle accounts with your love past and teases your former partners for having made friends. Paulina Rubio is nice, but sharp; spontaneous, but corseted; Close, but distant. The diva is unpredictable and puzzled in each of her responses.

Your new single "If they knew" is very ironic, what have you wanted to convey to us? Irony. Humor, isn't it? The lyrics of the song are pretty straightforward and you call your ex "fools." Are they? Not all. Some [laughs]. You've always been a provocative artist, is the controversy beneficial? I don't think my music is controversial. I have songs that reflect black humor and reality mixed with fantasy, with Guajiro dreams, with music, with art ... One can be what one wants. Labels are part of the road. Have the scandals of your private life been profitable? For you, yes, not for me. You said Paulina was a company, "a brand that creates songs, sells records and makes concerts." A whole declaration of intent, isn't it? I'm a human being. I am a mother, I am a daughter, I am a sister and a friend. What are you not? Air. You have a reputation as a rebel, who have you had to rebel against? Against the system. Being authentic makes each other happy, not so much. What is the price you have had to pay for being yourself? We live in a very materialistic world, but I feel that the most beautiful thing in life is not something material. I say this because of the price question and about the company. All this interview you are doing to me is very materialistic, when perhaps the reason for being, my hymn or my internal song is love. You have a reputation for being a capricious diva. I have been criticized, but I keep my mission, my catalog and my family. Being an artist, a woman, an author, a composer, a businesswoman and having songs in the 80s, 90s and 20s, entails many bills and you have to pay them all. I like being able to always vindicate myself as a working and luchona woman. I don't care about the labels you are going to put me with the interview. I have many things to do to worry about a newspaper headline or news on the websites. What has Paulina Rubio been a pioneer in many things. I have always followed my great-grandmother with great pride, that maternal figure that made her difference in an independence and in a Mexican revolution in 1910. What did your great-grandmother do? She was a woman a little frustrated at not being able to dedicate herself to opera, art and, for that reason, perhaps he gave us wings to perform through us. I am a woman who has the great fortune of being able to devote herself to what she likes most. From the beginning of my career, I have known very well to break the molds. Before it was the daughter of or that of "Timbiriche" and we must continue to evolve. When I have a very good job, I want a better one. You took the banner of Latin music when it was not so fashionable yet. But what are you saying? Julio Iglesias, Gloria Estefan and before them, María Callas or a Rivera, Siqueiros ... There are many trendsetters . I think every woman wants to claim her generation. It is true that when I started to sing in Spanglish in places where there was no talk like in Mexico or in Spain, perhaps they were more crappy with the roll. But that is part of me and how I have grown. That's how it was spoken in Miami, in Spanish and in English. Gradually, the different genres have been coupled to this evolution and technology. Globalization brings new vocabularies and new words. There were people who prepared the way for us, but now there is a real boom in Latin music. I live without masks. I like to do very varied and eclectic things, but without losing who I am. I am very authentic with me. I have my own identity. I can change costumes and arrangements, but there is an audience that loves Paulina. Instagram, Twitter and Facebook work like a tab, they tell me this I like and this doesn't. It is like the ancient Roman circus. That gives me an idea of ​​what the public wants to hear from me. You provoke love and hate in equal parts, what would you say to your haters? Don't hate me for being pretty. [laughs] The haters are also part of me. Paulina and Shakira, Shakira and Paulina, who copies who? I love my partner very much. It's true that since she's blonde, I think she has a better time. Is the rivalry with Thalia real or invented by the media? At first, we were in the same band of children and we fought for who sang the most. But that is already part of the past. Being on the fourth floor, you learn a lot from things. I want to be my best version. I do not want to be perfect and I will never be, because I am earthly, flesh and blood. What do you think of those macho lyrics that we have to hear in reggaeton? There is no criticism. Freedom of expression. It's art. I am not going to tell Molotov not to say this. I'm not going to tell Estopa. I really like art. I am very respectful in that regard because I have lived in the first person who constantly criticize me for something. Fly the flag of feminism, what is the most urgent achievement to conquer? We are conquering it. They pay us the same as them or a little more. Well, it will be in music because in other sectors ... Talk to your boss and claim yourself. Work more than them and you will see that your salary will go up. Each generation of women claims in its own way, how do you claim now? I like to talk about what I have in my heart and in my head. Do not censor me with the lyrics of the songs, with what I say. I will not always be able to please everyone. For me it is not the goal but to be able to write and transmit what I feel and that people make my songs their own. Do you feel the pressure of having to look perfect 24 hours a day? No, I have a super-grateful audience that I am as is. I am far from perfect. I am mortal like you. I have a lot of flaws. Do women give up more things than men when we are mothers? Definitive. You give up everything. Before I start my day, I can't think of anything other than my children. How many times did you have to set limits and say here? Every day. In life and in the music industry. Have you experienced any uncomfortable situation of harassment? Always. Not anything more physical but of word or media pressure or policies in any company or group. All human beings have to deal with this. Yes, but you are a woman and you started very young. Yes, but there are millions of women in the world who have the same goals. I am a mom who travels all over the world and who works. There are billions of women like me. My grandmother, my great grandmother, my mother, you ... Is it easier to be a man? I think so. Is it harder to be a woman? Yes, but we like the challenge. And, that is why we want to claim worldwide. What was your worst moment on stage? It was when Jenni Rivera died. We were on stage and they told us that their plane was missing and we didn't know if it was alive or dead. Living this with Miguel Bosé in a live like 'La Voz' has been something I have never been able to overcome. What has La Voz taught you? I have learned to learn from them and listen to them. In the last 10 years of television, I have learned a lot as an artist, as a woman, as a producer and also as an entrepreneur and manager. Has there been tension with the other coaches like Antonio Orozco? Yes. Do you fight for the contestants? We fight for everything. We are human beings. Is being a juror of a talent show the best way to revitalize a career? I don't know. For me, it is not revitalizing is being in force, being able to deliver what they have given me. Being in Factor X or 'La Voz' has enriched me not only as an artist but as a human being. What stories do you tell your children? I improvise. They like the sea very much and I try to make baby shark and horse fables. I tell you stories of life itself, always with an end of hope and overcoming. It doesn't matter what you do, but enjoy it. Let's not forget to be happy. In everyday life you forget why you are here. You have to enjoy the road.

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