This Friday marks six months and 24 days of the investiture of the 'popular' Juanma Moreno (Barcelona, ​​1970) as president of the Junta de Andalucía. His coming to power, supported by Cs and Vox, ended almost 37 years of socialist governments. Few bet on him. Now, it boasts stability.

We are in August and we are still without a government, does Pedro Sánchez have the right to go on vacation to the official residences of Doñana or Mallorca? I think not because he has not earned it. Holidays are a right, but you also have to earn it. Pedro Sánchez has not done everything he could to have a government today. If you want to be president, you have to go and look for it, pursue it and work it, but I have not seen the interest or desire. He has thought more about his particular interest than the general one. Why do the center-right parties quickly agree, as in Andalusia, and those on the left have found it impossible, as seen in the failed investiture of Sanchez? Well, not always. They have not agreed because they are thinking about their electoral interests, their fishing ground. Sanchez wants to take the opportunity to make a hostile takeover to Mr. Iglesias. That is why they have not agreed. We are more pragmatic, we get to the point and see what we agree on and what not. If in what there is disagreement it is not important, we put it aside and we dedicate ourselves to reach important meeting points. We are more practical. Is there a magic potion to reach agreements that you want to transfer to Sanchez? I am not the one to give advice, but here the dialogue has worked until exhaustion. Be very heavy and intense. Dialogue, dialogue and more dialogue; and if there is to be 15 hours in a row, it is. Also have empathy, put yourself in the skin of the other. In the end, the two sides have to yield to reach a common goal. Is it possible for the PP to abstain in the next investiture debate? Today it is impossible because Sánchez has not moved a finger to seek a minimum of empathy and agreement with the rest of the political forces; has not been able even with the political forces closest to him ideologically, imagine with the PP. I also want to remember that Pedro Sánchez is the author of the famous phrase "no es no" and it was he who took us out of the government with a motion of censure with a fake . There are no environments in the PP, neither in the bases nor in the intermediate cadres, as if to support Pedro Sánchez. How was your reconciliation with Pablo Casado? I have never had to reconcile with him because he has always been a friend. We have known each other for more than 20 years and have shared many things. He is a person whom I value and appreciate. Sometimes we disagree, it is reasonable, but always with the loyalty of saying it to the face. We go together and paddle in exactly the same direction. Pablo will be president of the Government of Spain sooner than some think. Now he is one of the barons of the PP, but it has not always been that way. How do you get to this position? You get to work many hours with enthusiasm and believe in yourself, but I'm still a grassroots affiliate. I consider myself very loyal and disciplined with my party. The Andalusian PP was breastfeeding a few days ago because Andalusia is an "island of stability in the ocean of uncertainty" at the national level, but the opposition reproaches him that ten senior officials have fled from his Government: It is true that it is an island of stability. If we take a look, there are municipalities that do not approve the budgets, in the central government we do not know if there will be elections ... In Andalusia, in less than six months we have almost removed the inheritance and donations tax, giving it a 99% discount, we are doing reforms in the administration, we have approved the budgets ... There is a solid and stable government and we have stable parliamentary agreements with different political forces and that makes us an island. In addition, Andalusia is growing and developing more than the other communities in these months because there is confidence.When negotiations began to form the new Andalusian government there were many who did not give two hard for the stability of this executive.This is a government for a full legislature because the Andalusians want it that way. We could not tell the Andalusians 'hey, after waiting 40 years, now we start with nonsense, egos, artifice games, vanities and break an agreement'. No. Here we have to be very serious and the first one, me. Above the political acronym and personal positioning, is the general interest of the Andalusians. How much money has already been thrown, metaphorically speaking, through the window of his office in San Telmo by the pifias of the previous government of the PSOE? In these six months, a lot. Only in the interests of the Seville metro, 36 million euros, that is, 10,000 euros a day that we have been throwing away. The level of indolence and incapacity of the socialist government has done a lot of damage to Andalusia and the Andalusians. The figures are dizzy. There are also almost 4,000 million in grants pending justification that are lost. Yes, there are 3,600 million in outstanding debts or subsidies that are not justified that have been prescribed over time and the socialist government has been unable to move a finger to recover them. Money that belongs to all Andalusians and sadly we have already lost. A good part of this money is under suspicion in cases of corruption such as ERE, fraud in training courses ... Probably. There is a lot of money that is under the magnifying glass of the judicial investigation or of the administration itself and there is a lot of money that has been used for other interests or there has simply been lack of control and chaos in the Andalusian government in recent years. Nobody has hurt public money and that phrase from Vice President [Carmen Calvo] has come true that public money is not from anyone. There has been a detriment of public funds due to the negligence of the socialist government. Is this the most surprising thing you have found under the carpets after almost 37 years of socialist governments in Andalusia? There are many things surprising and more will come out. Surprising is the half million Andalusians not recognized on health waiting lists and the tens of thousands not recognized in the unit. And that has been done by the Socialists, those who call themselves progressive and guarantors of essential public services. They have mistreated essential public services, such as health and education, and have mistreated Andalusians. How are you dealing with resistance to change? With a lot of patience. You only fight with arguments, perseverance, data, rigor and convincing many people who do not see any of the reforms we want to implement. Which partner is more exasperating: Citizens or Vox? They have been two partners so far loyal. With Cs in government we understand each other with great loyalty, and when we have to disagree, we do it internally and we look for the agreement that is best for Andalusians above acronyms. About Vox I have to recognize that he has been a loyal partner in Parliament, who is contributing to the reforms we are promoting. He is a great fan of hiking, with which politician would he go hiking in the mountains? Get wet and tell us one that is not of your party. The mountain is very good; to talk many hours and to meet a person. Notice, I would like to go to the mountain, probably to discuss, with the Basque Country's lehendakari since he is also very fond of the mountain. I would like to go up with him and, from regional president to regional president, discuss some things that we probably would not agree with. But I would give you my reasons. Have you already discovered what power erotics consist of? I have discovered more power sticks; That is the first thing that is discovered: cakes come from all sides: social networks, the written press ... The cakes of power have discovered them. The erotic? Some say that now shine with more light; I imagine that they will refer to the fact that since I have the spotlights on me, probably, some see virtues that they did not appreciate before. Certainly, as president of the Board, their presence in the media is greater than before when I was in the opposition. Yes, although I Be the same person in the opposition as in the government. I used to preach in the desert and now I have more possibilities to project my political project. Now they tell me on the street: 'I didn't like you so much in the opposition, but now in the government, yes.' You played in a group, what musician have we missed? He was a mediocre musician. I was late for the 80's move, but that influence marked my generation. I am very often, I am Taurus, and I wanted to form a music group. I had several projects. The third group, which was the most solid, was Fourth Protocol. Music makes your life happy and widens hearts. I had a lot of fun; We went through the villages and made versions because our songs were not known to anyone. And that feeling of getting on stage and saying 'good night, we are Fourth Protocol'. Uff. Musicians do flirt. They do! More than politicians. They do have erotic, not power, but the erotic stage. At what time in history would you have liked to live? I am contemporary; I like my time. But I would have liked to live in the Golden Age of Spain: literature, commerce, international influences ... In that Spain that forged an empire. What do you plan to do to combat the San Telmo syndrome [the San Telmo Palace it is the seat of the Presidency of the Junta de Andalucía], which you blamed on Susana Díaz and makes the presidents disconnect from reality? You fight closely, being an affordable, accessible person and listening more than you speak. I try not to miss any opportunity, I try to walk to the sites and when I meet taxi drivers, merchants or street people, I ask them. Many times they criticize you, but it helps you to take the pulse of society and try to rectify if there are incorrect decisions. Power corrupts, what will you do when someone from your team puts your hand in the box? If I have reliable knowledge and real proof of that he is committing an illegality or has put his hand in the box, immediately throw it out of the party, the government and where he has to throw it from. Are politicians well paid? It is very relative. What is meant by well paid? In general, in Andalusia, payrolls are below the average of the rest of the communities and that has limited us to sign people of recognized prestige in the field of urbanism, culture, justice and the economy. Many people have told us "no" to be general manager or general secretary because of an economic limitation. They are people who already have a series of economic commitments and expenses in their homes and with the salaries we offer they cannot come. What if I feel well paid? Yes, I do, although I am at the bottom of the table and there are mayors, community presidents and better paid advisors than me. But I feel well paid especially for the love I feel on the street. Is it fair for a counselor to continue charging another two years to leave office through severance pay? It is reasonable because we have no right to unemployment and be in politics it incompatiblizes you for many things, apart from the legal ones also the moral ones. There are people who have given everything for public service and then I have seen them totally thrown away. In addition, layoffs are voluntary and incompatible with any other remuneration. Where will you go on vacation? I will be in Andalusia, obviously, because it is the best land to spend the holidays. We are the only Spanish region with the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean, we have mountains and an impressive historical and cultural heritage. I will be in Málaga, Cádiz and Almería, in Cabo de Gata. I would like to be in the eight provinces, but there is not enough time. The nap is for you ... It is disconnection and peace; that moment when you can drop yourself on a cool sheet, with the noise of the wind and my background children playing. It is a relaxing and restorative dream. The nap is wonderful and that's why we're exporting it. What does a president of the Junta de Andalucía do when he doesn't exercise? You are all the time. But, well, I like hiking, nature, going for walks in the countryside and being with my children of 10, 8 and 5 years, who are the big victims of this political adventure to the point that they tell me: 'Dad, Your job is a mess, I will never be a politician 'or the little one who complains that I have many duties.

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