• Interview Two hours with Nacho Vidal and Martiño Rivas: "The porn of now does not represent me, they do not even kiss the girl"

Ignacio Jordá has always lived in a heavy duality, that of Nacho Vidal. "I have been more Nacho Vidal than Ignacio Jordá," confessed last night the porn actor in the last program of the season of Lo de Évole. Nacho Vidal is a runaway horse, Ignacio Jordá is the same horse trying to use and tame the animal instinct he carries inside. "I've realized that everything I do has to do with Nacho Vidal."

The premiere a few months ago of the series Nacho returned to the front line of fire to Ignacio Jordá. Months after interviews, presentations, press conferences, Nacho Vidal received Jordi Évole in a rehabilitation clinic. The runaway horse had eaten the tamer. Ignacio Jordá couldn't take it anymore. He didn't get out of bed, he didn't see anyone, he didn't go down to shop, he didn't eat... His Saturdays were in absolute solitude with a gram of coca, 8 cans of beers and between 8 and 12 hours in a row of "straws".

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Two hours with Nacho Vidal and Martiño Rivas: "The porn of now does not represent me, they do not even kiss the girl"

  • Writing: SARA POLO Madrid

Two hours with Nacho Vidal and Martiño Rivas: "The porn of now does not represent me, they do not even kiss the girl"

"I'm in a clinic where I arrived three weeks ago. I'm having a depressed situation. I had an anxiety attack, a panic attack that I've never had and I didn't know what to do and I asked for help. Everything scared me," said a euphoric Nacho Vidal last night, so euphoric that Evole himself later turned to the actor's psychiatrist to really ask him about Nacho Vidal's condition. Nacho Vidal is at the beginning, at the beginning of his catharsis, of his attempt to return to being Ignacio Jordá, to tame the runaway colt, to stop paying the broken dishes of Nacho Vidal.

Lo de Evole's interview with Nacho Vidal can be divided into two phases: first, with that Nacho Vidal in the clinic, euphoric, with the well-learned discourse on prone, on what Nacho Vidal was and is, on sex education and, above all, on excesses. And a second block, already at home, weeks after leaving the rehabilitation clinic in which Ignacio Jordá begins to control, or so it seems, Nacho Vidal. Let's start at the beginning, let's start with porn, with Nacho Vidal.

Although Ignacio Jordá wanted to unmask Nacho Vidal, he is fully aware that Nacho Vidal has given him everything, but he has also taken everything. He is aware that Ignacio Jordá does not have much more to do in this life but to live, and if the tamed colt can do it, all the better. But Ignacio Jordá is also aware that without Nacho Vidal that life would not have existed, with the good, with the bad and with the worst.

"There is no age to quit porn. I talk to Rocco and we both agree that porn is over. What you and I knew no longer exists," Nacho Vidal insisted several times during the interview. He came to earn indecent amounts of money, but with the advent of the Internet he went from earning one hundred percent to 5%, and still earned more than enough. In fact, that's what he lives on, the rights to his films, his productions. But no, the porn that Nacho Vidal did, is not the porn of now: "Before we took work home. We'd have dinner with the actresses, we'd go home and keep making love."

It idealizes a world, which at the same time it degrades. That world, that of sex, that of testosterone punctures to be able to endure erections, that of the "magic pills" to be able to continue at the foot of the canyon, that of parties, that of hours and hours "making love". Nacho Vidal does not say fuck at any time, because, according to Ignacio Jordá, Nacho Vidal made love. "If you watch porn now, actors don't kiss girls or eat their pussy. It's all mechanical, always the same. There is no passion, no connection is coldness. I didn't make positions, I created connections. I didn't care about penetrations," he said. "I don't remember it that way," Evole replied at the time. "Because you're going to make yourself a straw, you're not going to see art." Yes, art. Squeaks? Not Nacho Vidal.

He considers himself an artist, a porn artist: "You see a Miró and you don't understand fucking shit until the artist explains it to you. My porn was art." And before this what is said, because little because Nacho Vidal loved his work as much as he hated it, at least it was what he transmitted last night. Absolute adoration for pornography, while assuming that his "darkness" was pornography, was to have been the most famous porn actor in the world. "If you had been a woman, would you have dedicated yourself to porn?" asked Évole. "No fucking idea. I do not recommend anyone to engage in porn. Look, out of 100 girls who come to my hands who want to be porn actresses stay in two. When I explain it to them and they see what it really is, they run away." No need to say more, did it? "The worst thing is the stigma that if you're a porn actor you're a penis with legs." But there is more, much more.

One hundred sexual diseases are those that Nacho Vidal has contracted in his career, and those that he remembers. Gonorrhea, chlamydia. And what remains of all this, a chronic disease, Reiter's syndrome, a spondyloarthropathy characterized by sterile inflammation of the synovial membrane, fascia and tendons: "It fills your wrist with fluids, your knee, your ankle. I had to prick myself with morphine and painkillers during the night and day." But Ignacio Jordá remained Nacho Vidal.

At one point, something changed. When the kids were telling him that they did to their girlfriends what he did to girls in his movies, a click made him change: "A kid came and told me that he put his girlfriend's head in the toilet. But he didn't know that where I made it was a clean cup, a new toilet, which is an acting, which is a lie." Nacho Vidal recalled last night that there was a moment in his career that changed his mechanics. He began to use condoms in his scenes and to soften. Sex education, which Nacho Vidal claims from parents and the system.

Now what? Ignacio Jordá knows that he cannot kill Nacho Vidal, because Nacho Vidal is his source of income. He is so aware that now he tries to enjoy the little things because all his life everything has been big. In the clinic he rode horses, painted pictures and continued ruminating Nacho Vidal. He knows that he can sell those pictures he paints if he signs them "with his dick". He can't finish Nacho Vidal, he doesn't want to end Nacho Vidal: "I've realized that everything I do has to do with Nacho Vidal."

Already at home, in the second part of the interview, recorded weeks after leaving the clinic Nacho Vidal has given way to Ignacio Jordá. He still has traces of a debossed colt, but he brakes, but he is honest, but it hurts. It is Ignacio Jordá, the one who cries, the one who meditates, the one who takes care of his garden, the one who talks about his judicial problems, the case for money laundering in Operation Emperor for which the prosecutor asks him for 55 million pesetas and 11 years in prison. He talks about the death in his house of the photographer José Luis Abad after performing the ritual of the "sapo bufo". "Ignacio pays all the penalties of Nacho Vidal because Ignacio pays everything he has with Justice with Nacho Vidal." The runaway horse.

"A person died in my house and no one has asked me how I felt that I died in my arms. But everybody's cared that I'm a murderer and killed someone." Ignacio Jordá speaks and Ignacio recounts that day. It all started at the insistence of her cousin. Nacho Vidal had done much of these rituals as a participant not as a driver. His cousin calls him, tells him that there is a photographer who has a bufo toad and wants to do the tirual, Nacho Vidal refuses several times, but ends up giving in. That day José Luis Abad goes to Nacho Vidal's house, the ritual begins, everything seems to be going well until Abad falls to the ground without breathing. Nacho Vidal revives him, breathes again, gets up, walks, lies down, breathes relaxed, it seemed that everything was going well, he stops breathing again, the last time. Nacho Vidal spent 45 minutes reviving him, when the ambulance arrived they could only certify his death.

On March 31, the forensic doctor ratified before the court the report in which it was remarked that the mixture of these substances "affect cardiac contractility causing arrhythmias, increased heart rate, the strength of the heartbeat" and blood pressure, so they establish in their consumption "the link of chance with the death" of the victim. In addition, there were other aspects that influenced such as his pathological history, that he was a smoker or consumer of alcohol and other substances.

"I have it as a trauma. If I had said no to my cousin, that wouldn't have happened." And he cries. It won't be the only time. Ignacio Jordá will remember his father, he will remember his illness, he will remember the emptiness and he will see himself reflected in him, in depression, in being up and then down, in his children: "I don't want that for them." And Ignacio Jordá cries again. "Everything that happens to me, the illness, the depression, making money, is what happened to my father with the difference that I saw my father."

What if plan A doesn't work? Does Ignacio Jordá have a plan? "Yes, die. That will be plan B. Don't kill myself, die. I think I've done everything in my life, now I just have to live. I can't continue as I was. I don't deserve that ending. I've lived too long to end up alone in the dark. Whatever happens I will always breathe. And the day I stop breathing, die."

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