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Nuria Roca said this Sunday in her program, La Roca, that "it will not be the last time we talk about this." That "this" is the topic that since Wednesday of last week occupies all the debates of the social chronicle in Spain, all the opinion tables of the televisions, and even the Congress of Deputies: the maternity of Ana Obregón by surrogacy at age 68.

Since the magazine Hola! published the great exclusive announcing the maternity of Ana Obregón, with those images of the presenter leaving the hospital in wheelchairs with a girl in her arms, turning on the television is listening to talk again and again about the same thing. Everyone has an opinion, everyone knows what he or she would have done, everyone is able to put themselves or not in the shoes of Ana Obregón, everyone sentences.

Hours and hours of television of tertulianos, collaborators and presenters, even of news, talking about Ana Obregón, of surrogacy, of the reasons that have led Ana Obregón to be a mother again, of the age of Ana Obregón, of morality, of ethics ... Rarely has a motherhood, whatever it may have been, transcended all areas of society.

However, it was this Sunday afternoon in the program of Nuria Roca where the presenter and her collaborators took out the link that, although it may seem surreal, has a lot to do with this maremágnum of opinions and judgments that have been made all week: the "semen of force" of Ortega Cano.

That said, it may sound like who gives more, but the reality is that the appreciation made by Nuria Roca is a key point to understand why for five days in the street, in the houses and on the sets there is no other topic of conversation than Ana Obregón and her motherhood.

It was Gonzalo Miró, who assured La Roca that since he heard the news he has not found the words "to express what I want to say without disrespect", who took out of the equation what has probably caused this tsunami. The maternity of Ana Obregón has three legs: surrogacy, illegal in Spain, although hundreds of children born in this way are registered every year, the age of Ana Obregón and the reasons why Ana Obregón has decided to be a mother.

"One thing is what is talked about surrogacy, and another is the right that someone with almost 70 years of being a mother can have. I wouldn't, but it's not forbidden. If you take age out of the equation there will be many people who dedicate themselves to having children to fill other deficiencies, "said the collaborator. Age, surrogacy and reasons. The age, 68 years, of surrogacy has already said everything and more, and the reasons, Ana Obregón herself gave them in her first tweet after jumping the news: "I will never be alone again".

"The fact that she can think about being a mother to fill the void caused by the death of her son," continued Gonzalo Miró, "is that if you take age out of the equation that is what everyone puts on the table, because it may complicate it, there will be many people who dedicate themselves to having children to fill other deficiencies. . That's not new. No one is asked for a report to be a father." The problem is that no matter how much you try to solve the mystery of this complicated equation, removing the X's from the equation is very complicated. And that's where the debate comes from, and that's why we don't talk about anything else, too many X's, because there is a 'but' for each of them.

"To adopt, yes," replied Abril Zamora. "If she had wanted to adopt, they would have pushed back on her application because of her age. I think filling the void with a new child... If I were my friend, I would have told her it's not the time," said the actress and director.

Gonzalo Miró and Abril Zamora pressed the button that Nuria Roca already tried to press last Thursday in El Hormiguero: age and being a woman. During the table of collaborators of the Thursday program of Pablo Motos, Nuria Roca was very clear in assuring that she did not dare to judge a woman who has lost a child, but she did want to claim that if instead of Ana Obregón it had been a man with the same age or older, It would have been news, probably also the cover of the magazines, but nothing to point out.

It's true. Many of us still remember those images of Papuchi on the street with his partner, 48 years younger than him, talking about his future paternity, and surely we will all remember him with a smile because that Papuchi was a father with almost 90 years did not involve any debate or any ethical or moral crisis.

Nuria Roca could have remembered that moment, which she surely also remembers, but she recalled the moment when Ortega Cano, in an interview on El Programa de Ana Rosa stood up, looked at the camera and blurted out: "My semen is strength. Let's go get the girl! I send you all my love." There was also a lot of talk about the television moment of the bullfighter, but much less was a debate opened about his age or about paternity at that age. Of course, it was very criticized because it was in the process of separating from Ana María Aldón and because, let's be honest, it sounded more like when a bull rides a cow than anything else. But no one said, 'But how is he going to be a father at 70?'

What if Ana Obregón was 45 years old?

But Nuria Roca must have thought about it: "When Ortega Cano goes to the camera and says 'my semen of strength' nobody refers to his age. Absolutely nobody... It was ridiculous because you had one lady who wanted to separate and the other saying she wanted to have a child, so it was ridiculous, but nobody made reference to age." And, look, he is more right than a saint. Neither anyone made reference to Ortega Cano, nor to Papuchi, nor to Julio Iglesias, nor was there a national debate with the paternity by surrogacy of Miguel Bosé or Baroness Thyssen. They were covers of magazines, themes of the social chronicle, but at the level of the motherhood of Ana Obregón, not by a long shot.

"There's been a lot of talk about cases of quite older men who have been fathers, but usually haven't been fathers on their own at that age. They have been parents to exaggeratedly younger women. Would the criticism of Ana Obregón be the same if the father of that girl were a couple of Ana Obregón who was 45 years old today?", added Gonzalo Miró.

To understand Nuria Roca and Gonzalo Miró, we must understand fatherhood and motherhood as the presenter understands it: "I start from the opinion that both paternity and motherhood are individual, you are father and you are mother. Period." And although Nuria Roca was much clearer in El Hormiguero stating that in the maternity of Ana Obregón there is a macho component that there would not be if instead of Ana Obregón it had been a man, what Nuria Roca was trying to show is that, that the measuring stick is not the same either in this.

And this does not mean that in the internal forum the question remains the same: what will happen to that girl, with Ana Lequio Obregón, when her mother is 80 years old and she is 12? "There will come a time when Ana Obregón is not going to be immortal," said Abril Zamora.

"She will not be alone," said Zamora, returning to the starting point: "When that older man, who has made semen of strength has a partner who is young and who is going to be a mother, when he is not at least he stays with a member of his close family." "Do you think Julio Iglesias would have been thrown on him if he decides to be a father alone, without a partner, with 80 years?", launched Gonzalo Miró. Think. The answer comes out on its own.

Because, in addition, as Nuria Roca said next, Ana Obregón is not alone. Yes, Ana Obregón is 68 years old and you can debate at length about being a mother at that age. Adopt, impossible. Being a biological mother, obviously not. Only surrogacy remained. So far so clear. If, as Gonzalo Miró said at the beginning of the block, Ana Obregón's age is removed from the equation, and even that Ana Obregón is a woman and not a man, one of the X's would have already disappeared, probably it would not have existed.

But one thing is what would have happened if instead of Ana Obregón he had been a man and, another, is that no matter how much Nuria Roca or Gonzalo Miró believe that this tsunami would have been treated as nothing more than a wave if it had been a man and not a woman, it is impossible to return to the point of origin no matter how much you want to show what has been and what would have been with another person. Even Nuria Roca returned to the starting point, to the equation with all the unknowns: "Common sense also has to intervene and with 68 years having a child maybe is not ..."

"Here the only debate that can be addressed is what we think of surrogacy, everything else is a value judgment about behaviors for which we do not know all the data. I think someone can be a father at 30 and die the next day. This is so. It is true that we may be surprised that a person with 70 makes this decision, I do not know if it has to do with replacing one child with another. What I maintain is that I am against surrogacy, "said Juan del Val, and equally, he is right.

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