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The first time

's book fell into her hands,

(Madrid, 1974) thought that it was not going with her: she had seven children and little time to devote to the "attachment to things" that she introduced into our lives. the Japanese guru of

But life gives you surprises and Bego's -

"the governess of order", she tells us in reference to her name on

, where she accumulates almost a million followers - arrived in 2019. Two years had passed since her father and she was trying to close her

cycle

, but she felt sunken, the house was coming down on her and everything was falling into a ball.

"I forgot about medical appointments, day-to-day things... And I realized that the external

affects the interior," she recalls.

It was then that the Marie Kondo book fell into her hands again, this time with a very different reading: "I thought: if this woman is teaching to order, I can learn. And she can teach too."

The following, a

course to deepen the subject, a world that until then was unknown to her although it had always surrounded her, because after a period of two years as a

and a time without work, she dedicated herself to the family business, " a small

and

design studio where I had seen for a long time that this need existed".

In March 2019, already as

and as an organizer, she began to visit houses to help everything find its place.

"And I was doing well, but just a year later the pandemic locked us up at home."

She had to reinvent herself.

"I didn't want to tell about my children's lives, but since I had been around for so long, I began to pay attention to things that I hadn't seen before: if the drawer doesn't close properly, if that stain never comes out, what time do I have to change the closet..." .

account began to grow

;

word of mouth and hairspray did the rest the day she managed to buy one of the then coveted

to

her hair at home at the supermarket.

"I wore the ugliest and oldest shirt, but I didn't like having it dirty, so I remembered a hairdresser's advice: dye

come out with hairspray. I did it, I recorded it and it worked. That video is still there ( laugh)".

And from dye and lacquer, to becoming the Spanish Marie Kondo, the benchmark for

and

in our country.

"They asked me and I answered, because I always answer. And that's how it emerged, it began to grow," she recalls.

ANTONIO HEREDIA

From all this, from her day to day and how to manage to make order and stains, or rather the absence of them, a business -"You can live from being

but it is very difficult; for me it is a work, I take it as such, and it takes me many hours"- we spoke in this

.

She receives us at her house, where she teaches us her best cleaning tricks and gives us a practical master class on how to

using hers as an example.

ANTONIO HEREDIA

Does it bother you to be compared to Marie Kondo? Not at all, on the contrary, I think it's an honor.

I wish I could help as much as she did.

I like to see that each one has its order process and its moment.

And without stress, in every way. She says that with three children it is no longer possible, she gives up.

How do you do it with seven? It is not that Marie Kondo gives up, but that she is in a different process.

She used to give importance to everything being in order and when she got up in the morning she kept having things just as she had left them.

But in houses with children that usually doesn't happen and parents need a 'waistband'.

It is necessary to maintain a minimum routine, but the order is there to serve us.

If a house gets messy because you live in it... then enjoy it.

Are the Japanese methods not for us? It is true that Asians have an imprint of minimalism that might be good for us... But in general we Spaniards are very orderly, what happens is that the more things we have, the more difficult.

Anyway, we can't be ashamed of the mess.

So, do you recommend the Marie Kondo method? Yes, yes... She has helped a lot and has done a lot of good.

It seems like a great method.

And it is very important to learn from detachment.

Have you copied any advice?

Which one do you put into practice at home? Yes... Specifically, vertical bending.

I used to fold everything the same, it was ugly and not very useful, but I left it that way.

Now I know that when that happens you have to give it a spin, a thoughtful one.

what happens is that the more things we have, the more difficult.

Anyway, we can't be ashamed of the mess.

So, do you recommend the Marie Kondo method? Yes, yes... She has helped a lot and has done a lot of good.

It seems like a great method.

And it is very important to learn from detachment.

Have you copied any advice?

Which one do you put into practice at home? Yes... Specifically, vertical bending.

I used to fold everything the same, it was ugly and not very useful, but I left it that way.

Now I know that when that happens you have to give it a spin, a thoughtful one.

what happens is that the more things we have, the more difficult.

Anyway, we can't be ashamed of the mess.

So, do you recommend the Marie Kondo method? Yes, yes... She has helped a lot and has done a lot of good.

It seems like a great method.

And it is very important to learn from detachment.

Have you copied any advice?

Which one do you put into practice at home? Yes... Specifically, vertical bending.

I used to fold everything the same, it was ugly and not very useful, but I left it that way.

Now I know that when that happens you have to give it a spin, a thoughtful one.

Have you copied any advice?

Which one do you put into practice at home? Yes... Specifically, vertical bending.

I used to fold everything the same, it was ugly and not very useful, but I left it that way.

Now I know that when that happens you have to give it a spin, a thoughtful one.

Have you copied any advice?

Which one do you put into practice at home? Yes... Specifically, vertical bending.

I used to fold everything the same, it was ugly and not very useful, but I left it that way.

Now I know that when that happens you have to give it a spin, a thoughtful one.

ANTONIO HEREDIA

As much as order now comes from the East, in this matter of cloth and the house it seems that things have not changed much here.

Hers is an account followed basically by women, although more and more men are joining her ranks and sometimes some women "use their husbands' accounts because they are not on the networks," she explains.

They also dare to ask her how to get rid of a stain, "besides, it is very noticeable that they are men because they go straight to the question, we go around more," she adds.

Could you be happy in a house that wasn't clean and tidy? Totally.

I am in mine, which is very vivid.

Imagine, we are nine... The house is infinite and has its processes, we need to have a little routine and discipline, but order is at our service and not the other way around;

It has to make life easier for us, not make us slaves.

Although for that you have to do it. So in your case that saying "At the blacksmith's house with a wooden spoon" is valid... Yes, it is, yes... I live between stains.

With seven children I have many daily challenges... (laughs). What is the most difficult thing to keep tidy in your house? The fridge.

It's a very messy thing, everyone touches it all the time and nobody puts things back where they belong.

You are the scourge of stains, but what makes you lazier to clean? Without a doubt, dust, I can't handle it,

probably because the next day it looks almost the same.

I'm testing techniques to see if I can remedy it and make it last a little longer... And what do you like the most? I love the iron, it relaxes me.

I put on my podcast or a series... and ironing.

Or without wearing anything.

Ironing lets me think, it helps me place my thoughts, it's my corner.

I also love experimenting with products, it's my great vice. Where do you get the ideas for those mixes and experiments? I try to draw on the wisdom of grandmothers, who are very smart.

I'm not a chemist, so I have to try, although it is true that you need some basic knowledge so that there is no problem: ammonia and bleach do not mix, this does not heat up... It is also a matter of patience;

in the end you see what works and one thing leads to another,

when you focus in stain mode, your chip changes and ideas come to mind.

That product you can't be without is... Wow, how difficult... There are many, I prefer bicarbonate, which is also ecological and cheap. Which of your cleaning tricks are you most proud of?

Of the one who uses hairspray;

It has been one of the most surprising. And the joker that we need at home to keep it spotless? Everyone's support.

Anyone who lives in the house has to know where things are and how to use them.

And not only adults, with certain ages and with a head, also children.

Little by little you have to get used to it.

Which of your cleaning hacks are you most proud of?

Of the one who uses hairspray;

It has been one of the most surprising. And the joker that we need at home to keep it spotless? Everyone's support.

Anyone who lives in the house has to know where things are and how to use them.

And not only adults, with certain ages and with a head, also children.

Little by little you have to get used to it.

Which of your cleaning hacks are you most proud of?

Of the one who uses hairspray;

It has been one of the most surprising. And the joker that we need at home to keep it spotless? Everyone's support.

Anyone who lives in the house has to know where things are and how to use them.

And not only adults, with certain ages and with a head, also children.

Little by little you have to get used to it.

The keys of Bego La Ordenatriz to have a tidy closet

Begoña Pérez, The Orderer, in her dressing room. ANTONIO HEREDIA

From the theory to the practice.

These are the keys that

gives to get an orderly closet and keep it that way no matter how much it contains behind its doors.

They are the ones that she herself follows in her

From her.

And so she tells us.

• The first thing,

  'box' everything we can.

  In drawers, in boxes, boxes..., everything that helps us divide areas.

  Boxes for underwear, socks on the other hand, separate undershirts, tops... The idea is to open the drawer and see everything in boxes.

• It is convenient to have

  everything placed in a vertical fold, to see it.

  It's about seeing everything we have, because if we don't see it, we don't use it.

• At the time of hanging,

  it is much better to unify the hangers and that they are all the same.

  Clothes give us a lot of color and a lot of visual noise and we can minimize it by using the same hangers, the ones we like: wooden, velvet... These have the advantage that they take up little space and the clothes don't slip.

• The hangers

  must all be hung with the hook inwards, because that way it is much easier to remove them without moving the clothes next to them.

• How do we place

  the closet?

  We go from left to right, from the darkest to the lightest, following a pattern of colors, as if it were the rainbow.

• And from the heaviest

  to the lightest.

  First coats, jackets, vests..., from left to right and from darker to lighter.

  The latest pants and shirts.

  Why this order?

  Because we are prepared to see it like this.

• Every thing on a hanger.

  This way we can see everything and know what we have, what we like and what we don't, even what is clean or not, because there are items, such as jackets and vests, that we don't wash after each wear.

• By organizing

  the wardrobe in this way, even if there is a garment that we have not worn for a long time, we continue to see it every day and we realize why we do not wear it: because we no longer like it, it is not worn, it brings back a bad memory. ... And we are aware that this no longer has to be there, because it is no longer part of our order;

  This is like life, dynamic, it has to change.

• The shoes

  have to be all in the same place, clean and tidy.

  You also have to see them all, because what I don't see I don't use.

  And if I see them and I don't wear them, I have to ask myself why: it's uncomfortable, it's not worn anymore, it has a heel and now I'm wearing a flat... So, when the wardrobe change arrives, I'll easily know what to keep and what to wear. you have to go

• Double the space.

  Sometimes it is a problem to accumulate and store shoes, because they take up a lot.

  For that it is very useful to have shoe organizers, a very simple gadget that allows you to double the space and have them all in order.

• The add-ons area

  should also have some importance.

  Since we don't use them every day either, we need to see them easily.

  It seems silly and obvious, but we must keep scarves with scarves, gloves with gloves, hats with hats... It helps a lot to choose the right color that we need to combine.

• To maintain order,

  it helps a lot to always prepare your clothes the night before, because that same day in the morning we get nervous and lose heart.

  In a quiet time before going to sleep, separate the clothes that you are going to wear.

  It seems not, but that way you will also use what you are most lazy to wear;

  in the morning, when there is no time and you arrive late, it is not the time to stop to think about how to take advantage of the closet.

• And one last piece of advice:

  if this order does not convince you or does not work for you, look for yours, your own method.

  There is no need to be afraid to change the wardrobe as much as it takes.

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