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More than 20 years ago,

(Madrid, 1957) definitively left the newsroom of

, the series that consolidated a popularity that has not declined since then.

They have had to go through a Goya, a heart attack, several couples, a load of Activia yogurts and a wide collection of hits for her to dress as a pen again in

, the Netflix series based on the

by Javier Castillo.

He feels comfortable: "I hadn't been a journalist for twenty-some years and, just after finishing this series, I shot a movie with Belén Macías in which I am also a journalist. I must have something. Do you see me in a newspaper?"

No, you dress too well.

In the end, you will be the most famous journalist in Spain.

Yes, or also the policeman, I think both professions compete.

Journalism is a profession that I have always admired and have studied a lot.

I think we have many similarities because our daily work does not leave us indifferent, we take it home with us, it stays on our skin.

And that is very difficult, especially when you are young, you are starting and you want to change the world.

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Do you find it difficult to get out of character?

To me?

No, no, not at all, for God's sake, I've already learned to take off those ballasts.

Every day, when they say "cut," I hang up the character's costume and I'm José.

And vice versa, the same: when I arrive at a

I forget that I am José and I am a character until seven in the evening and I experience it as a party.

But I know how to hang the character, and stay with the good.

One of the most interesting things that we actors have is that, to the extent that you want to dive into the construction of your characters, you can enrich yourself personally.

There are many characters that have enriched me, apart from allowing me to earn a living.

Which is not bad.

Nothing bad.

Although from the outside being an actor looks very easy and it is not.

It's a tough job, even if it doesn't seem like it.

Above all, because of the ups and downs, which are inevitable and hard.

But you, once you got up to speed in the 90s, you never stopped.

I have been very lucky and, furthermore, from the beginning it was clear to me that to have a long-term career you had to play in all three media: television, cinema and theater.

When I was starting out, many colleagues told me: "Television? But if you are an actor who makes movies, how are you going to make television? How are you going to make series."

And I answered them how could they deny a format in which you had three, four or five million people every night.

What has come after has made me very funny, because those actors and actresses with Goyas who looked down on me for doing TV are now doing series like crazy.

Time has proved me right.

because those actors and actresses with Goyas who looked down on me for doing TV are now doing series like crazy.

Time has proved me right.

because those actors and actresses with Goyas who looked down on me for doing TV are now doing series like crazy.

Time has proved me right.

José CoronadoÁngel NavarreteWORLD

In the series you play the role of a mentor, a consecrated guy who has reached the goal.

Do you see yourself like that as an actor? Yes, yes.

I see myself comfortable, I see myself released, I see that I have achieved it and now I simply have to maintain.

In addition, this is already achieved in a much kinder and much more practical way when it comes to working on the characters, because I keep what is good, not with the stress and anguish that caused me when I was 30 or 40 years old.

Then everything affected me more, I was more afraid.

Now I have stopped suffering and work from the peace of mind of knowing that, between quotes, I have succeeded.

It cost you especially.

It was said that you were only handsome, which is not little, but that is another debate. It was difficult for them to take me seriously as an actor, but I have understood it because what they said was true.

They were right: I know that I entered the cinema because of my physique and my voice.

It is so.

The luck that I had was that in those days the approval was very cheap and they did not kick you out the first time.

There wasn't the competition that there is now.

When I arrived Imanol [Arias], [Antonio] Resines and Carmelo [Gómez] were there.

Three or four, there were no more.

Now there are 8,000.

I spent 10 years learning, saving myself from burning, doing kilometers and improving, until there came a time when, let's say, I got my actor's card.

At that moment, everything that at first had been a problem for me turned into something fantastic, a plus, because I was already a competent actor and also, let's not kid ourselves, people always like to see someone on the screen with good looks, with a good physique.

To recap: time has proved you right in doing TV and in being worth it for this.

Yes. And, furthermore, beauty, aesthetics, is dangerous.

I remember that Mario Camus told me something that opened a new horizon for me, from there I saw everything very clearly.

He told me: "José, when you stop thinking about whether you're handsome or not handsome, you're going to be sooooo handsome."

And it is like that, that is a gift of life that has made you who you are, but the moment you start to think about how well you turn out on a shot, we are screwing it up.

There I changed a lot in my way of dealing with being handsome. Despite the fact that you are 40 years older than Milena Smit, in the series a sentimental relationship is hinted at between your characters.

Don't you think it's forced? No, in fact I would have taken it further, because it's something that happens nowadays, these things happen.

Fortunately, we are in a world in which we live in freedom and there are no prejudices as to whether you are a man-man, a woman-woman or if there is a big difference in age.

But there was no time to develop that relationship further because I got on this moving train, when everything was already well done.

My character was the least of it.

My character was the mentor of Miren Rojo, like me, José Coronado, I became in some way the godfather of the series because it is an excellent product that can travel all over the world and I wanted to be there because I have a good relationship with Netflix, which is the best possible partner and I try to take care of it.

In addition, I also liked that it is a very powerful story that affects us all, told and supported by women, the characters of Milena and Aixa [Villagrán].

It shows in a very crude way a rape and its aftermath.

Yes, a terrible problem that is constantly present, such as sexist violence and rape culture.

That's why I tell you that I thought it was better not to shake the possibility that my character would grow or stop growing when there was such a powerful story of sexual violence like this one and, furthermore, it was led by women.

Are you in a deconstruction process?

Do you think you've been bad in the past? Sure, of course.

You mean with women?

Yes, of course I've been rude to them, but through no fault of their own.

We all have been.

It was just the education they gave us.

Less you, you're younger, but imagine me, I was born in 57 and grew up in the 60s. Being macho is what we were taught and, furthermore, blessed by the Catholic Church.

Then as

Are you in a deconstruction process?

Do you think you've been bad in the past? Sure, of course.

You mean with women?

Yes, of course I've been rude to them, but through no fault of their own.

We all have been.

It was just the education they gave us.

Less you, you're younger, but imagine me, I was born in 57 and grew up in the 60s. Being macho is what we were taught and, furthermore, blessed by the Catholic Church.

Then as

Are you in a deconstruction process?

Do you think you've been bad in the past? Sure, of course.

You mean with women?

Yes, of course I've been rude to them, but through no fault of their own.

We all have been.

It was just the education they gave us.

Less you, you're younger, but imagine me, I was born in 57 and grew up in the 60s. Being macho is what we were taught and, furthermore, blessed by the Catholic Church.

Then as

rational, you begin to think and realize why I do and you don't and, thank God, times have evolved and all the currents that have been created for us to learn and reach a more egalitarian society have been created.

It is fair and it is drawer.

There is still... Yes, because it is a problem that has been carried over from the beginning of history and is not going to be solved in a day.

But, for God's sake, remember how we were five or six years ago, now many things have changed for the better.

What happens is that then there is also collateral damage that gets in the way.

What collateral damage? For me, the sense of humor, that now you have to fuck it with cigarette paper.

Or courtesy and healthy seduction, which are also under suspicion.

Now we have to be careful with all these things.

I assume it because,

If we put it on the scale, all those handicaps are welcome if we are achieving a better society.

Do you find it difficult to measure yourself with those things?

puff.

I was going to tell you that I am old enough to say what I think, but I believed that a few years ago.

Now, with the way things are, I have understood that I cannot say everything I think, that nobody can say it abruptly.

We have reason and intelligence to give well-argued and respectful opinions.

Not everything goes, of course.

You have to be very careful with what you say because we are living in very fragile times in which great advances are being made and, although it is sometimes difficult, we must continue on that path.

I was going to tell you that I am old enough to say what I think, but I believed that a few years ago.

Now, with the way things are, I have understood that I cannot say everything I think, that nobody can say it abruptly.

We have reason and intelligence to give well-argued and respectful opinions.

Not everything goes, of course.

You have to be very careful with what you say because we are living in very fragile times in which great advances are being made and, although it is sometimes difficult, we must continue on that path.

I was going to tell you that I am old enough to say what I think, but I believed that a few years ago.

Now, with the way things are, I have understood that I cannot say everything I think, that nobody can say it abruptly.

We have reason and intelligence to give well-argued and respectful opinions.

Not everything goes, of course.

You have to be very careful with what you say because we are living in very fragile times in which great advances are being made and, although it is sometimes difficult, we must continue on that path.

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Has the industry changed a lot as a result of Me Too?

Sure, there is a huge change.

From all the women who direct now, that before there was an absolute disproportion, to this same series in which the inspector, who in the novel was a man, is done here by Aixa, who is an actress.

And why is that her?

Because it's good enough to see policemen with mustaches. It gives me the feeling that you take your profession and life much more calmly than before.

Was it due to the scare [he suffered a heart attack in 2017]?

I was already learning to take it more calmly, but it is true that the heart attack made me think a lot and relativize even more: what used to be a drama seems like nonsense when you have seen the eyes of the grim reaper.

I have learned where my interests lie in the rest of my life.

For me the most important thing was my job: "I can't fail, I can't fail."

Now I know that where I cannot fail is as a father, that is what must be prioritized and it did help me in that.

Is it worth all the noise, fame and stress that comes with success like yours? Fame limits you until you let it out.

I came across this 27-headed monster that is fame when I began to be known and I discovered what it means and how harmful it can be, what it can take away from you as a human being, what an asshole you can become for believing you don't know what .

I realized that I had to give back what popularity gave me and the only way was to channel that fame to contribute your bit to society with social causes.

We are people who, when we speak, people stop to listen to what you say.

There may be a super prepared guy and they don't pay attention to him because he's boring, but they listen to you.

When I discovered that I could help, I thought: "Damn, this stupidity that is fame is for something."

It's the worst part of the profession: the photocalls, the attacks on your private life... Is it worth all the noise, fame and stress that accompanies success like yours? Fame limits you until you let it out .

I came across this 27-headed monster that is fame when I began to be known and I discovered what it means and how harmful it can be, what it can take away from you as a human being, what an asshole you can become for believing you don't know what .

I realized that I had to give back what popularity gave me and the only way was to channel that fame to contribute your bit to society with social causes.

We are people who, when we speak, people stop to listen to what you say.

There may be a super prepared guy and they don't pay attention to him because he's boring, but they listen to you.

When I discovered that he could help, I thought: "Damn, this stupidity that is fame is good for something."

It's the worst of the profession: the photocalls, the attack on your private life...Yours has been almost televised.

You see, my sentimental life has been televised without even once speaking about it, although for 20 years now I have felt tremendously respected.

Journalists know who is playing this game, who is making a profit and who is not.

But, come on, I have not shyed away on that topic [laughs].

I have never stopped having fun or enjoying myself in case they took me out or stopped taking me out.

I have been very clear about that.

All that was missing... Being able to afford it,

Don't you want to stop working and live life? What a good question because I've had her on the roof for months.

What is clear to me is that from now on my career is going to be different.

I have gone to die for everything because since I started I understood that you had to fight wherever you went: if they took a heifer out of me, a heifer, the Miura would come.

And that's how it's been for decades: interviews all of you, photos you want, talks there I am, presenting the Goya yes and giving an award, too.

Whatever it takes.

But not anymore, I no longer have the strength to do it.

So I've learned to select more, but I try to keep this trade of mine with me until the last day of my life because it makes me enjoy.

I ran into him by chance at the age of 30 like someone who finds a wallet full of money and I said: "Damn, you can live on this,

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