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Condensing

(Valencia, 1944) into a list of her works is almost impossible in this space.

Because 40 years on stage go a long way, and even more so if they don't anticipate ever ending.

At her "78 and a half years old" she neither sees nor wants to see the end, she only thinks of a new beginning.

That is why she has returned with

, the play about the infinite woman from Joyce's Ulises that opened the doors of the trade for him and that he recovered at the Teatro Quique San Francisco before taking her around Spain.

A perfect symbiosis.

How much have you seen us change from up there in these 40 years? I was a 36-year-old girl and we were coming out of a brutal and cruel dictatorship.

I know what it is to run in front of the grays with their batons because culture and knowledge have always been the terror of dictatorships and that is why they repressed you.

Thus we began to get excited about a democracy that, in all naivety, we thought was a solution. Democracies don't seem to like culture too much right now. Because culture is the great terror of any manipulative power.

And now it's a bestiality, politicians talk, talk and do nothing.

As Joyce writes, I shove that policy up my ass.

Although in theory, at least, we have advanced. And in practice?

What is the most important? We are still very far from the horizon we had in the 80s,

women still have many desires that we do not put into practice, we continue to fake orgasms and we are out of focus in the photo of the bed.

We are still a sexual object and not a subject.

For centuries, sex was what men wanted, and women like Molly trying to discover pleasure were not allowed.

Life is not a war of the sexes, it must be a sum of the sexes. Women already allow themselves that pleasure, right? We keep fighting, but we still don't have that freedom through education.

Everything I knew about sex at school was because once I looked at it with a mirror, sex did not exist in the human body and the women of my generation only discovered it that way.

I have always spoken bare-chested out of sheer unconsciousness.

Now I have more fears and nightmares, but also a desire to put an end to that glaze.

Without unconsciousness this life would be extremely boring. It's true, because unconsciousness leads you to not have vertigo, but my distrust has increased with slaps and I have been protecting myself to stay alive.

My fight is that protecting myself does not scare me more than necessary, because desire is what will make me get to where I have proposed.

ANTONIO HEREDIA

You don't sound like a woman who was afraid to say whatever she thought.

There I have always been less afraid because, as my father said, for what I have left in the convent I shit inside.

I have understood what things are worth fighting for or not to use my energy better.

We have to return to the tribe, leave behind the disease of loneliness and go backwards.

It is a wrong refuge, in solitude we are not protected.

Exchanging fluids has the danger of getting sick, but there is the strength to get out of the confusion and chaos. Has this democracy of ours disappointed you?

I believe that this democracy and its obsession with not changing the immobile Constitution are absolutely retrograde.

That is what disappoints me the most, and I fight every day to discover people who like to move towards a more just society.

As long as there are those stone columns that are immobile and armored constitutions, we will not reach that more just society. They will call it radical.

Life is unstoppable and we have Eros and Thanatos, movement or death.

I'm not a kamikaze, but life has to move forward and live without gutting us.

Look how violence progresses, there is gender violence, so we are doing something wrong. What do you feel when you see 48 women murdered in the last year in a developed country like Spain? It is a tragedy, a brutal lack of education and the consequence of machismo.

This should not happen in our society, but many generations will pass until feminist theory is internalized in men and women as machismo, which is what we have always known.

We have inherited a way of living and a world that we must transform because they are shit, and we can only do it together from knowledge, because those who have power are a disaster. With a 40-year career, what do you see if you look at the end? At the moment I can put up with a shoot and retain texts, but every day I tell myself my age so I don't forget, because I feel that I don't have it and I do have infinite energy.

I think that if the physicist leaves me, I will be able to write or think.

Life is a cycle and at some point it will end, but I don't see my end. Is the stage your addiction? I run away from addictions, in the 70s we were unconsciously addicted to sex, to joints, to heroin... But I smoked joints without swallowing the smoke and made me dizzy.

Addiction has red lines that cannot be passed because it no longer gives you pleasure, it destroys you.

And I've seen that since I was little.

I like danger and adrenaline, but without pleasure they don't interest me.

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