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Anniversary of the disappearance of Glenn Gould: "He destroyed the basis of interpretation"

Glenn Gould in 1965. Toronto Star via Getty Images – Harold Whyte

Text by: Nicolas Sanders Follow

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Forty years ago, on October 4, 1982, the famous Canadian pianist Glenn Gould died in Toronto at the age of fifty, after a stroke.

A gifted and brilliant musician, admired on all continents, he is known as one of the greatest interpreters of Johann Sebastian Bach.

Much more than a pianist, Glenn Gould is an artist of profound originality, explains Bruno Monsaingeon who worked alongside him for a long time in the context of musical films that have become legendary.

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RFI: How do you view the past 40 years without and with Glenn Gould?

Bruno Monsaingeon:

It is something very curious.

First of all, 40 years seems grotesque to me because it's almost half a century!

And I have the curious impression that he is not dead.

What happened ?

He is physically dead.

But the rest of his message is absolutely present.

It was widely rumored that I was a liar and that I had been hired by Glenn to spread the lie, and that in reality he was alive and hiding in my house!

I had messages, especially from America, emphatically stating that everyone knew that Glenn was hiding at my house to observe the reactions to the announcement of his death.

In a way, they are right.

A number of people around the world, and I'm not talking about a sect, have a very strong sense of Gould's presence,

because the impact he had on them was not just the impact of a great pianist.

There was something more that belonged only to him.

It is perhaps simply the fact that we are gradually gaining access to what is Gould's thought, expressed with an absolutely extraordinary literary force.

Prelude No. 1 BWV 846 from the Well-Tempered Clavier (1st book) - JS.

Bach

Recently, a music magazine wondered about what remains of Gould 40 years after his disappearance…

I read this magazine, there is a whole series of texts which are not so bad.

And it ends with “of Glenn Gould there is nothing left”.

Placed in this perspective, in 4 billion years the solar system will have disappeared.

I think whoever wrote that on Gould was anticipating 4 billion years, that's a bit much.

What's left of Gould is what lives on in thousands and thousands of people.

Gould is not only Johann Sebastian Bach, it is a transcendent message.

That's why it just survives.

With Gould, we adhere to something.

It is not a religion or a fanaticism, we adhere to a way of thinking.

No need to agree or disagree, it's something from another domain.

Gould had a modesty, through a sense of relativism.

I believe that the outside opinion did not interest him.

He was not someone who sought praise.

With music, we can play the game of comparisons.

Beethoven's violin concerto, which is better, Oistrakh or Menuhin?

Etc.

With

Glenn Gould

, the comparison is a useless game.

Because you're listening to a record and you're literally overwhelmed.

Partita No. 6 in E minor - JS.

Bach

If Gould touched the human race so much, did he not ultimately leave an unsurpassable horizon behind him?

Yes, especially when he says: “

what's the point of practicing this profession if you have nothing original to say, if you just repeat

”.

Gould has a way of seeing as an abstract painter, even if it remains very concrete.

He has a specific vision in an extraordinarily telling way in music.

It is an independence with respect to the score.

He executes the notes with clinical precision, but he has that very individual look that ultimately corresponded to the Bach revival.

Gould's idea

is that if you have something to say, that's fine, otherwise you're a parasite, you're useless.

Which sets the bar horribly high.

Sonata No. 7 in B flat major op.

83 - Sergei Prokoviev

How was his vision of interpretation perceived at the time?

He was misunderstood and also a threat.

The musical milieu accepted Gould much less than the intellectual milieu or the general milieu of the population.

The musicians were threatened in their very existence.

From year to year, we reproduce, we give concerts again... So Gould is a threat to people who rest on their laurels, that's clear.

If it was poorly received by the musical community, it is for this reason and it is also because it destroyed the bases on which the interpretation was based.

In Mozart's sonatas, Gould introduced the humorous dimension that is there in an extraordinary way, for example by inverting chords.

It's a wonderful way to see Mozart, but when this record came out people said that Gould was crazy, that he was a demented character.

In fact,

Prelude No. 2 BWV 847 from the Well-Tempered Clavier (1st book) - JS.

Bach

How was your work with Glenn Gould going?

A total complicity in the staging and in the scenario.

My work with Gould was a work on him of course, but also on me.

I think I expressed myself in this in a total way.

But we resorted to all the tricks.

The Goldbergs is something that took a considerable amount of time.

I had prepared everything in a precise breakdown, and we worked variation by variation, then segment by segment.

Most of the time we did a take, and we went to listen and watch, and there I never had the slightest remark from him from a visual point of view.

Afterwards, he would call the tuner and he would work on the piano, which had to be in perfect condition.

Every 10 minutes there was a retouching of the piano.

If the piano had the slightest unevenness, it had to be corrected because it was not bearable for him.

Goldberg Variations - 1981 - JS.

Bach

On October 4, 1982, you lost more than a work partner...

Our conversations began in July 1972 and ended in September 1982 with his death, finally this stroke on September 25, the day of his birthday, the day after our last conversation.

The last time I saw him physically, in June 1982, he was more and more in a contemplative form.

We could spend hours with him without speaking.

It usually happened with listening to music, because there was an almost obsessive way of having the presence of the music.

The last thing we heard in 1982 was Strauss' Alpine Symphony conducted by Karajan.

He had a passion for these things, we listened to it five times during the night.

He was someone who had left a kind of exuberance behind.

He had repeated to me that at 50 he would stop playing the piano to devote himself to his literary work, probably a fictional autobiography.

He also always told me that if he suddenly wanted to record something, he would be ready.

And he died on his 50th birthday with a stroke that put him in a coma until October 4.

It's something extraordinarily premonitory of which I had no obvious sign.

Why did Glenn give me such an extraordinary welcome?

Why such an incredibly professional friendship which was coupled with a musical or intellectual complicity, when he was a genius and I was never anything but myself… I've often thought about it.

He also always told me that if he suddenly wanted to record something, he would be ready.

And he died on his 50th birthday with a stroke that put him in a coma until October 4.

It's something extraordinarily premonitory of which I had no obvious sign.

Why did Glenn give me such an extraordinary welcome?

Why such an incredibly professional friendship which was coupled with a musical or intellectual complicity, when he was a genius and I was never anything but myself… I've often thought about it.

He also always told me that if he suddenly wanted to record something, he would be ready.

And he died on his 50th birthday with a stroke that put him in a coma until October 4.

It's something extraordinarily premonitory of which I had no obvious sign.

Why did Glenn give me such an extraordinary welcome?

Why such an incredibly professional friendship which was coupled with a musical or intellectual complicity, when he was a genius and I was never anything but myself… I've often thought about it.

Why did Glenn give me such an extraordinary welcome?

Why such an incredibly professional friendship which was coupled with a musical or intellectual complicity, when he was a genius and I was never anything but myself… I've often thought about it.

Why did Glenn give me such an extraordinary welcome?

Why such an incredibly professional friendship which was coupled with a musical or intellectual complicity, when he was a genius and I was never anything but myself… I've often thought about it.

Bruno Monsaingeon, September 2022. © RFI/Nicolas Sanders

Gould has often been referred to as an "extra-terrestrial", "the man of the future", in what way was he out of his time?

Internet is exactly what Gould described, when the physical presence of the interpreter is no longer necessary.

He corresponded a lot with McLuhan, it was part of the essence of his concerns and his writings.

He was writing things 50 years in advance, but for him it wasn't a diviner's description, it was going to happen anyway.

Like the video when he spoke of “video cartridges” to evoke cassettes.

All the methods he describes are not methods that belong to him 100%, everyone has done editing, or no editing.

It is a philosophy that he describes, it is not at all only a mode of action.

We talked a lot together about the avant-garde concept which drove him crazy.

He said that the criterion could not be that.

Bach did not write minuets,

he continued to write avant-garde music, whereas the avant-garde was precisely the minuet.

The fugue is dead, long live the minuet, Bach didn't do that.

Gould had this balance between forms that didn't have to be avant-garde, and content that of course was way beyond his time, into the future.

I think it's timelessness that makes posterity, I'm sure of that.

And so does Glenn.

"Poroppopompeipopappapaaa" Glenn Gould in rehearsal with Bruno Monsaingeon

Between Glenn Gould and Bruno Monsaingeon, an alchemy

Violinist, writer, Bruno Monsaingeon is the director of numerous musical films with the greatest performers of the 20th century, from Yehudi Menuhin to Sviatoslav Richter, passing in particular (the list is dizzying) by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, David Oïstrakh, Friedrich Gulda, Zoltán Kocsis… and Glenn Gould.

Author of eight films with the great Canadian pianist, whom he has worked with for a long time, Bruno Monsaingeon is also a translator of his writings, which he has published in five books.

A pure child prodigy, in whom absolute pitch was discovered at the age of 3, Glenn Gould enjoyed success at the age of 23 with the recording of the Goldberg Variations by Johann Sebastian Bach, in 1955. Less than ten years later , at the height of his notoriety, he definitively abandoned concerts that did not meet his ideal of perfection, and devoted himself exclusively to recording where he was in total control of the sound.

In 1981, Glenn Gould recorded a second time the Goldberg Variations, filmed by Bruno Monsaingeon.

Much more than a pianist or an interpreter, Glenn Gould is also a composer, a writer, a man of radio and television, in love with sound and image technology, keen on the theories of communication that he has - even fed.

In 1982, on September 25, the day of his fiftieth birthday, he was struck down by a serious cerebral accident which plunged him into a coma.

He died a few days later, on October 4.

The filmography of Bruno Monsaingeon

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