Natalia Lacunza: "Bad men always get rich"

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Natalia Lacunza

(Pamplona, ​​1999) has stopped repeating to herself "I'm not going to get it, I'm not enough" to start saying to herself:

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A mantra that she has carried to the title of her latest album, the first full-length that she publishes after leaving

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The contest

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She also does it with her ex, singer

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Both have had several public confrontations and she dedicates one of her songs to him.

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The Navarrese presents her album today, June 24, at the Tomavistas Festival in Madrid.

Question- On the album you make a tour of your mental states of the last two years.

Have they passed or are they still there?

Answer-

There are processes in which I follow.

The album has been therapeutic and the songs have helped me to order my mind.

It's me breaking into pieces and talking to everyone and myself.

Although they have already told me that I only make reproaches to the outside.

And it is so, I admit it.

Q.- What process are you still in?

R.-

I'm still fighting against my head.

impostor syndrome

, but I think it happens to all of us.

We have to learn to find a safe place in our minds.

Q.- Is leaving OT related to it?

A.-

Sure.

It stems from the feeling that I owe someone something, that I have to prove a lot of things.

You leave OT without any project and feeling that people love you but that you haven't earned it.

Now I'm not demanding so much of myself and I'm only giving explanations to myself.

JAVI MARTINEZ

Q.- Going back to the reproaches: in You didn't love me so much, many have seen a message to their ex.

R.-

Yes, that song is a reproach.

But deserved.

Q.- In it you sing "Bad men always get rich".

A.-

It is true.

All sons of bitches end up there.

Q.- Do you think that songs can change reality?

A.-

Well, I don't know.

The reality is that there are many things that have to change and that have not yet been done.

This song is not made from a selfish point of view to seek revenge but as a way to contribute to general awareness.

I think we've all been there at some point.

It not only represents a toxic relationship on a sentimental level, but also the dynamics that may exist, for example, at work.

Dynamics of abuse of power, extreme misogyny or absolute silence.

Q.- Do you understand the networks as a tool to amplify a speech like this?

R.-

I do not take it as a speech.

I understand that it is my speech, but I do not do it with the intention of being a spokesperson because I have a lot of collective conscience.

If what I say can reach many places I think it's great, but I try not to think if it will have many consequences because then... Uff, I'll shut up anyway.

Also, jolin, it's hard for me to see myself as a reference because I consider myself a person with many faults.

We have to remove that point of view that artists are untouchable.

Q.- Do you believe in the culture of cancellation?

A well-known rapper [Natalia asks not to put her name] has accused her of trying to cancel it on networks.

A.-

I don't believe in cancellation, but I do believe that things have to have consequences.

And the catch is that there are no real consequences.

In the end, making a cancellation through networks only serves to throw a lot of shit at a person on a digital level and it is not a reality in their life.

But the thing is complicated because it is not easy to denounce.

I think it's cool that there is a general awareness about things that are inadmissible such as sexual abuse or mistreatment.

And more when it is at a level of known person.

But if there is a guy from the world of rap or trap who is being a child rapist, and this is a reality, nobody is doing anything about it and his behavior is only whitewashed... Basically I don't care about the fucking cancellation by networks because what has to exist is a real consequence.

Q.- Have you ever regretted having spoken like that?

A.-

I don't regret it because it's the bloody truth.

But it's not fair that the consequence is that you lose when you're just pointing the finger at a rapist, literally.

In the end you come to the conclusion that the only thing that works is absolute silence.

It's all very complicated and I have nothing more to say about it.

Q.- Has the release of the album been planned in the month of Pride, being part of the collective?

A.-

No, but it makes me quite excited.

The album talks about looking for a place of your own, of finding confidence.

It is the same thing that the group has to suffer to adapt to society.

JAVI MARTINEZ

Q.- Do you still feel obligated to continually have to vindicate yourself?

A.-

For me, the moment of most brawl is over.

I have been calm with my condition for a long time.

But it is true that, as a bisexual woman, there is more questioning.

There are times when you can feel like an impostor of the collective, as if she doesn't belong to you.

Bisexuality is always seen as something very ambiguous.

Q.- Is sexual orientation still penalized in the industry?

R.-

I think not, but recently.

Now LGBT artists don't stop coming out and it's incredible.

We are a lot of people with many things to say and much to claim.

It is time for us to accept ourselves, love ourselves and be able to show ourselves the same as the rest.

Q.- I read in an interview that you have been diagnosed with a...

A.-

Yes, but I'm not going to mention it again, it made a big impression on me.

It is something normal, we are all quite touched in the head and we have to talk naturally about this.

In the end you think your life is perfect and then all the stars are shattered inside.

Q.- I just wanted to know how an anxious-depressive disorder has affected your career.

A.-

It has conditioned me in everything.

There have been times when I had to do a concert and I was terrible.

Maybe people had no idea and had been crying all afternoon.

It has been hard because mental illnesses are not seen as a physical limit and you are forcing the machine to a very high level.

I think it's important to ask for help.

I regret not starting therapy earlier.

Q.- This Natalia renewed after self-reflection, where is she going?

A.-

Towards a quiet place, of course.

Now I'm looking for a place to work without feeling judged either by myself or by others.

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