"Should we do the interview inside or on one of the terraces of freedom?"

Borja Sémper uses the electoral mantra of Ayuso, the guru of

Madrid

, to break the ice.

Of course, we chose the terrace despite the untimely cold that hits the city in these uncertain, rare, hesitant months.

After leaving politics in 2020, the former spokesman for the PP in the Basque Parliament and president of the Popular Party of Guipúzcoa acknowledges that he now sees the current situation "like a retiree looking at a construction site."

What a cute print.

So let's peek.

Seen what we saw, did you leave it just in time? I chose the right side and the right moment to be in politics in a territory like the Basque Country, but that led to a level of absolute exhaustion.

For me, leaving politics was like leaving a girl you're still in love with;

you do it because your head tells you so, but the pain doesn't go away. Were you a bad politician? I'm a politician who isn't worth this time, because I don't see the adversary as an enemy.

I was deputy mayor of a socialist alderman when I was 23 years old, and in Madrid it was hard for me to explain that although we had different acronyms, we shared the same trench because they wanted to kill us both.

We had a higher objective than the traditional dialectic of 'left' and 'right'. In other words, I refer to the most recent events,

vendettas

and daggers, do you have to be a pimp?

A corner bully?

A Twitter sniper? We are experiencing a wave of dialectical aggressiveness, of short-term exercise, of emptying out ideas.

There is a general posturing.

I hear a lot of criticism, a lot of complaints, a lot of pointing out what doesn't work, but I don't hear alternatives.

Is what they want to establish unspeakable? That didn't happen with ETA... Basically we were better against ETA than after ETA.

We showed more greatness in the fight against terrorism than after its defeat.

Sometimes I have the feeling that in Spain we only know how to beat football. Let's be serious, Mr. Sémper.

What was a person painting with two collections of poems published in such a jungle? I wrote them because I'm not ashamed, because I'm not mistaken, and because I didn't want to come home one day and think: "

exactly like so many ways of loving and doubting.

I don't care who a person prays to, kisses or votes for.

I have already experienced that imposition of purity, in the Basque Country.

Damn, I look like Mother Teresa of Calcutta.

I want to make it clear that I am not a being of light. You are even an avid reader of women's magazines.

To get to know the enemy better, perhaps? Or to seduce him. Since we entered frivolous territory.

they told him

the most handsome politician of his generation

.

Slab or blessing? Then they met me in person and said: 'It's not that bad.'

But I think that men also had to go through that toll that only women went through, which was to be judged by the physical.

They have called me much worse things. For example? Fascist, terrorist, murderer, when I lived in the Basque Country. With what it cost you to flirt because of having an escort... in Euskadi, we had to add the fact that I went with protection.

But with ingenuity I was solving it.

If one day the bell rang, Jupiter and Saturn lined up and that day I met a girl, I would meet the escorts at the exit of the bar, as if they were friends, and ask them to take me home. Every fuck was worth it. for 10.Or more...The most difficult question of all.

Beyoncé or Lina Morgan? So good!

I am very fond of Lina Morgan because my father loved her and we all watched her specials.

But Beyoncé is an indescribable force of nature and she also blows my mind.

The best?

Match them. Let's up the ante.

Abascal or José Mari?

Aznar, I mean...I'm staying with Feijóo.

Santi and I have shared many things as kids, we both suffer from the threat of ETA, regardless of the fact that his political position is the opposite of my interpretation of Spain, but I have an unshakeable personal appreciation for him.

And I haven't understood loyodyoyo for a long time. Life as the father of a large family in the townhouse, right? We have four children, from three to 16 years old, and we are like a

I'm very fond of Lina Morgan because my father loved her and we watched all her specials.

But Beyoncé is an indescribable force of nature and she also blows my mind.

The best?

Match them. Let's up the ante.

Abascal or José Mari?

Aznar, I mean...I'm staying with Feijóo.

Santi and I have shared many things as kids, we both suffer from the threat of ETA, regardless of the fact that his political position is the opposite of my interpretation of Spain, but I have an unshakeable personal appreciation for him.

And I haven't understood loyodyoyo for a long time. Life as the father of a large family in the townhouse, right? We have four children, from three to 16 years old, and we are like a

I'm very fond of Lina Morgan because my father loved her and we watched all her specials.

But Beyoncé is an indescribable force of nature and she also blows my mind.

The best?

Match them. Let's up the ante.

Abascal or José Mari?

Aznar, I mean...I'm staying with Feijóo.

Santi and I have shared many things as kids, we both suffer from the threat of ETA, regardless of the fact that his political position is the opposite of my interpretation of Spain, but I have an unshakeable personal appreciation for him.

And I haven't understood loyodyoyo for a long time. Life as the father of a large family in the townhouse, right? We have four children, from three to 16 years old, and we are like a

Let's up the ante.

Abascal or José Mari?

Aznar, I mean...I'm staying with Feijóo.

Santi and I have shared many things as kids, we both suffer from the threat of ETA, regardless of the fact that his political position is the opposite of my interpretation of Spain, but I have an unshakeable personal appreciation for him.

And I haven't understood loyodyoyo for a long time. Life as the father of a large family in the townhouse, right? We have four children, from three to 16 years old, and we are like a

Let's up the ante.

Abascal or José Mari?

Aznar, I mean...I'm staying with Feijóo.

Santi and I have shared many things as kids, we both suffer from the threat of ETA, regardless of the fact that his political position is the opposite of my interpretation of Spain, but I have an unshakeable personal appreciation for him.

And I haven't understood loyodyoyo for a long time. Life as the father of a large family in the townhouse, right? We have four children, from three to 16 years old, and we are like a

American sitcom

.

When we moved to the outskirts I thought that I was not going to adapt, that I would only have to wait for death sitting on a wingback sofa.

But I have adapted and I am happy. I work smoothly in a consulting firm, a peaceful life in the suburbs... And now what?

The grandchildren, perhaps? I confess that turning years bothers me quite a bit.

I'm like Woody Allen: dying seems like a very bad idea to me.

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