The exchange was tense.

This Tuesday morning, Apolline de Malherbe interviewed the Minister of the Interior Gérald Darmanin on RMC and BFMTV.

The journalist asked him if, regarding security, he had not “woke up a little late”.

And to support his question on the official figures showing an increase in attacks on persons, homicides, intentional assault and battery and sexual violence.

"I looked at your logo, I thought we were on CNews, but in fact we are of course BFM", he replied, reproaching him for a "simplistic and somewhat populist presentation".

"These are your figures," continued Apolline de Malherbe.

Before the discussion turns sour:

- Gérald Darmanin: Don't get upset, calm down.

No but calm down ma'am, it's going to be fine...

- Apolline de Malherbe: I beg your pardon, I beg your pardon!


- It's gonna be okay, it's gonna be okay.

- No but Gérald Darmanin, wait pause oh!

I beg your pardon, how do you talk to me?

The Minister of the Interior then declared that he was "fed up with populist speeches" and regretted that the journalist had not mentioned the drop in burglaries.

When Apolline de Malherbe told him that she was talking about “violence against people”, the minister asked him: “You don't want me to answer?


"I beg your pardon?": the very tense exchange between Gérald Darmanin and Apolline de Malherbe

— RMC (@RMCinfo) February 8, 2022

"It's not an answer, it's almost an offense"

“I find it amazing, your way of responding.

It's not an answer, it's almost an offense, ”said his interlocutor.

And the minister to retort: ​​“Do not be offended, I answer as you attack me.

A few seconds later, the two protagonists again exchanged speckled foil.

“How aggressive!

It's very difficult to work like this,” complained Gérald Darmanin.

And the interviewer to bounce back from tit to tat: “No, it is very difficult, I understand it well, to be Minister of the Interior when the French judge your balance sheet to be negative.


Gérald Darmanin's political opponents did not fail to react to this sequence widely shared on social networks.

"[He] does not assume the serious failure of his policy and responds with inappropriate aggressiveness," tweeted Marine Le Pen, RN presidential candidate.

“The French see the true face of Gérald Darmanin.

Unable to question himself, contemptuous and aggressive.

He is a worthy representative of Macronie.

That's enough !

“wrote Senator LR Valérie Boyer.

“All my support for Apolline de Malherbe who was right not to let herself be silenced by a minister who could not bear to be asked a valid question, simply because it bothers him.

Gérald Darmanin is indeed Minister of the Interior, contrary to appearances, ”posted ex-journalist Audrey Pulvar, assistant to the PS mayor of Paris.


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