Does it take two years to train a resuscitator, as Pécresse claims?

• Guest of RTL on Monday January 3, 2022, Valérie Pécresse affirmed: “To train a doctor, yes, it takes between 8 and 10 years.

  But training a resuscitator today [...] can take a year or two.

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• A viable solution, according to her, by “[taking] doctors who are already in hospitals and [qualifying them] to be in intensive care.

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• Several professional groups reminded

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  that the two main training courses for resuscitator today take 11 years.

  Valérie Pécresse's team specifies the contours of its solution, aimed at alleviating the hospital emergency due to the Covid-19 epidemic.

How long does it take to train resuscitators, so crucial in hospitals, as the Covid-19 epidemic cruelly reminds us?

The question arose on RTL, Monday, January 3, during an interview with Valérie Pécresse.

The candidate Les Républicains (LR) in the presidential election of 2022 there affirmed (from 5'15 of the replay below) wanting to count, during her possible mandate, on "25,000 caregivers recruited [...] specifically for hospital, 25,000 new caregivers trained.

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To the journalist who stressed in return that it took "between 10 and 15 years to train doctors, resuscitators, anesthetists", Valérie Pécresse was formal: "It is totally inaccurate.

Training a doctor, yes, it takes between 8 and 10 years.

But to train a resuscitator today […], it can take one or two years.

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And, in response to another journalist, indicating that it rather takes "five years", Valérie Pécresse then indicated her solution: "We can take doctors who are already hospital and qualify them to be in intensive care.

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, Anne Geffroy-Vernet, president of the enlarged National Union of Anesthetist-Resuscitator Hospital Practitioners (Snphar-e), indicates that “in the past, and in extremely specific circumstances, for doctors who had a specialty close to resuscitation, such as cardiology or pneumology, it was possible to train in resuscitation in one or two years ”.

"But with the reform of the 3rd cycle, which entered into force in 2017, this device was abandoned", she adds. Marc Leone, Deputy Secretary General of the French Society of Anesthesia and Resuscitation, agrees with

 : "The medical studies last 6 years, then comes the examination of the national classifying tests (ECN) and there, according to its classification , you choose your city and your specialty. "

“To carry out resuscitation, there are two possible equivalent courses: anesthesia-resuscitation, where we will develop skills in operative anesthesia and resuscitation for critical care, and intensive care medicine (MIR), which gives access to intensive care.

The two durations of studies on this 3rd cycle are 5 years, with a minimum of 2 years spent in intensive care, or 11 years in total to train a resuscitator with the requirements that can be expected today.

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Training for specialists with less activity due to deprogramming

For its part, the team of Valérie Pécresse told

 that, "in her statement, [the candidate] obviously referred to the exceptional crisis situation that our system has known for many months and to the fact that, two years later , we are still at the same point in terms of resuscitation, in the lack of preparation and without real support provided to the teams.

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"As the National Professional Council of Anesthesia and Resuscitation reminds us, in its guide to help set up temporary resuscitation, in the event of" an influx that exceeds the capacity for care, it is necessary to treat differently, differently from usual practices "", continues the candidate's team.

"In this case, Valérie Pécresse was referring in particular to doctors who had less activity due to deprogramming, in particular anesthesiologists, whose diploma is still a specialty of anesthesia-resuscitation", she underlines, the latter being able to “Support the teams” after training to deal with “a new massive influx of intensive care patients”.

“This targeted audience could have been offered training adapted to the circumstances in which we live, built with learned societies and professionals.

It would then be a question of making an inventory in each hospital establishment of hospital practitioners who have had experience in resuscitation and / or working in disciplines frequently requiring resuscitation, ”concludes Valérie Pécresse's team.

"It is not a viable solution"

Still, for resuscitation professionals, this kind of scenario poses another concrete problem, as explained to

Julien Pottecher, president of the National College of Teachers of Anesthesia and Resuscitation (Cnear): "The doctors of oth- er departments, such as cardiologists, don't sit in their office waiting to be needed, they practice a specialty they are trained to do.

They don't represent a mass of potential doctors, they are vital where they are.

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"If it is done for an extremely punctual crisis, we can understand that, for 15 days or 3 weeks, we can draw from these doctors, but it is not a viable solution, and it is impossible in the context of the Covid-19 crisis which has lasted for two years, ”he said.

329 resuscitator positions are now vacant, as explained by more than a hundred professionals in a forum in Le Figaro on January 31, 2021, arguing for a "sustainable" increase in the number of doctors trained in resuscitation.

According to a report from the General Inspectorate of Social Affairs (IGAS) dated July 2021 revealed by Le Monde, "from 2021, and until 2030, the inspectors consider it necessary to open" at least "40 additional jobs. 'interns per year, divided between the two specialties of intensive medicine and intensive care and anesthesia-intensive care ”.

The solution: a call to anesthesiologists currently in interim?

And Anne Geffroy-Vernet concludes: “Resuscitation is an extremely specific, extremely technical profession, where relations with death are significant, especially in times of Covid-19, it is not something that can be improvised.

The real solution would be to call on anesthesiologists who act as temporary workers and work mostly between the public hospital and the clinics, providing replacements.

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“When we talk to them, they explain that they chose this option because they like the public hospital and that they have worked there, but that the conditions are so crumbling, with insufficient remuneration and poor working conditions. , that this is no longer possible.

We must therefore make these professions more attractive again ”, considers the president of Snphar-e.

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