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Philippe Vandel received Wednesday in "Culture Media" the Minister Delegate to the Minister of the Interior in charge of Citizenship Marlène Schiappa.

She spoke in particular on the need to renew the media format of the debate between two rounds of the presidential election.

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His statement to 

M, the magazine du Monde

had caused a stir last April.

Marlène Schiappa, Minister Delegate to the Minister of the Interior in charge of Citizenship, defended the idea of ​​a presidential election debate presented by Cyril Hanouna.

An idea that she develops on Wednesday at the microphone of Philippe Vandel in 

Culture Médias

.

"What I said at the time, and which I confirm, is that I think we must renew the debate between two rounds", explains the minister.

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"It's a real media-political subject. The debate between two rounds as it has existed since Valéry Giscard d'Estaing is no longer suited to the period we are living, with social networks, participation , the new forms ".

The minister no longer wants "so-called classic political debates, as they were done in the twentieth century, which do not have a hearing".

Marlène Schiappa, takes as an example the bad audiences of the 

political program

devoted to Valérie Pécresse (which however faced the debate between Jean-Luc Mélenchon and Eric Zemmour editor's note).

Several thematic debates between two rounds

Marlène Schiappa, who co-hosted a program with Cyril Hanouna, had already had to defend her desire to participate in 

Touche, not at my post

. "I am in the Senate and I am about to do the Cyril Hanouna program. A hundred senators whistle at me and boo me simultaneously," she remembers on Europe 1. "And basically, I tell them that it is class contempt: there is not an elite who has the right to take care of the affairs of the country and the people who watch Cyril Hanouna's program, who would be sub-citizens and who do not would not have the right to take part in the big debates and to speak politics. Yes, the members of the government must speak to everyone. "

But the Minister Delegate to the Minister of the Interior in charge of Citizenship is developing another track to renew the genre of political debate.

"My prediction and my wish are that there will not be just one debate between two rounds during the presidential election," prophesies Marlène Schiappa.

"The debate between two rounds is an exercise which is very reductive and it is quite healthy that there are thematic debates. There are subjects that we do not talk about in this debate. In 2017, we did not not mentioned women's equality issues in presidential debates. "