Stefan Vilsmeier taught himself to program as a child and wrote a computer book that sold thousands of copies - with the proceeds he founded Brainlab AG more than 30 years ago and even gave up the originally planned course of study.

It now employs almost 2,000 people and is successfully established internationally.

In the podcast he talks about starting up, his business idea, how much his offers can already do today, a secret laboratory, how important it is to deal with health data with more opportunities - and what he does to keep up with Apple and Amazon in the competition for the best minds.