"Sam Wilson knows what he stands for," says Malcolm Spellman

"Falcon and the Winter Soldier": The director tells us how she shot the first fight scene -

two sidekicks

are now the heroes of their own show!

After the immense success of

, the second Marvel series for Disney +,

the third episode of which will be online this Friday on the platform, features Sam Wilson alias Falcon (Anthony Mackie) and Bucky Barnes aka the Winter Soldier (Sebastian Stan), sometime after the events of

At the helm of this series which is already breaking popularity records, another shocking duo, screenwriter Malcolm Spellman and director Kari Skogland, with whom

spoke via Zoom.

I feel like the central question of "Falcon and the Winter Soldier" is "what makes a good superhero?"

"...

Kari Skogland.

I have the feeling that this is really the most important story of the century, because it is about questioning racism, and it is about staging it for what it is. , namely the transmission of the shield from a white man to a black man.

The very iconic image of the hero is based on the soldier or the warrior.

Is it relevant these days?

What is a hero today compared to a hero of the 1940s, the time when this story was born.

I wanted there to be some sort of thoughtful exploration, an examination of what a hero is today, without necessarily concluding it.

After 9/11, the hero has become the one on the front lines.

A big change from the warrior!

With the pandemic, we are in the midst of this debate.

With the Black Lives Matter movement and all the protests, it's like the world is erupting to have this debate.

When Sam gets that old white iconic symbol back, that's not necessarily something he wants to do.

What does this mean to him?

What does this mean for his community?

Is the world ready?

All of these questions need to be thought through in the pop and vitamin universe of Marvel.

Malcolm Spellman.

The overriding question for Sam, Bucky, Zemo, Sharon and Walker is that of identity.

Sam and Bucky are especially wondering what it means to be a hero and what kind of hero you are going to be.

In the comics, Falcon was the first black superhero and the first black Captain America.

If Sam dresses in red, white and blue, what does that say about our time?

Malcolm Spellman.

Sam is black and comes from the South.

He has a deep understanding of this nation.

We watched documentaries about these black fishermen in Louisiana and saw how the banks destroyed them.

We didn't want to knock people out with politics, just let this story flow naturally.

Sam knows he's a good man, he knows he's a regular guy.

He knows what he stands for even though he's not Captain America.

This makes him a very modern hero.

The post-blip world of the series resonates a lot with the questions we have about the post-Covid world ...

Malcolm Spellman.

We can take half the credit.

We started writing before the pandemic.

We knew the post-Blip world was capturing a sense of change that was already blowing through the world, both good and bad, a feeling of fraying.

When the Covid crisis hit, containment allowed us to more clearly draw the lines between the two universes.

In the first episode, the banker wonders how Sam makes a living.

Does this introduce the question of the Sokovia agreements?

Malcolm Spellman.

I can't say too much!

It was interesting for me and the whole team to tackle this question.

All Marvel executives have commented on this scene.

Everyone has had a fan reaction to this topic.

We really wanted to discuss what it was like to make a living as a superhero.

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