Politics Aznar, on the 25th anniversary of his electoral triumph: "The hecatomb of Ciudadanos and the catastrophe of the PP complicate constitutionalism"
Interview Jordi Évole: "The people and the media are increasingly more ideological supporters"
With money and without money / I always do what I want / And my word is the law / I have no throne or queen / Nor anyone who understands me / But I'm still king ...
The premiere last night of the new season of
Lo de Évole
with the interview with
José María Aznar
did not officially have a soundtrack, but there was.
A station wagon?
The one Aznar sang to himself.
A song?
I, my, me, with me
.
One letter?
The one that
Jordi Évole
put
when asking the former Prime Minister:
"Do you think you are the fucking master?"
.
Look at where it was one of the few answers in which there was no me, because me and nothing more than me because ...
Aznar
continues to love
Aznar
.
What a season premiere!
Jordi Évole
had been saying it all week
, after many years behind José María Aznar to grant him an interview,
José María Aznar
was finally sitting face to face on the chain in which he never wanted to be and with the journalist with him who never wanted to sit down.
The reason, the 25th anniversary of his first electoral victory.
Could there be a more beautiful reason?
25 years since that day in
José María Aznar
ended the socialist monopoly and went out to the balcony of Genoa (the headquarters that
Pablo Casado
does not want now) accompanied by a young
Mariano Rajoy
, a young
Rodrigo Rato
and many others who have been in these 25 years They have been placed on balconies very different from that night.
How much it has rained since then!
And not always to everyone's taste, nor to
José María Aznar's
taste
.
Although if anyone can jump the puddles left by storms without being splashed, that is undoubtedly
José María Aznar
.
The interview, which was not easy at all, was a coming and going of questions, answers, against questions and against answers where in the end everything was summed up in 'my truth'.
In fact, the interview was very good, the responses as well, but the play of light and shadow, the close-ups, the chopped and contrapicked shots, the double shots were even more exceptional.
It gave the impression that more than an interview of two people sitting at a table facing each other, you were watching a movie, a movie, what a coincidence, in many moments it reminded me of
The Kingdom
of Rodrigo Sorogoyen.
Causality or chance?
Aznar
involved in the play of light and shadows in the foreground Aznar, lip and nose of
Aznar
in the foreground,
Aznar
against
Aznar
Aznar bottom ... It
was like watching a live interview and live a former President of the goverment.
Évole, to Aznar: "Did the fucking master feel?"
"Forgive my expression, but did you feel like the fucking master?"
Jordi Évole
asked him
at one point during the interview in relation to
the Trio de las Azore
s.
And surprising was
José María Aznar's
response
because it was practically the only one in which the self gave way to everyone:.
"It's funny (...)" Spain had very good moments of influence.
Spain was a point of reference because in the end we had a balanced budget.
Spanish debt was more valued than German debt.
The country was calm and in order and the economy was growing (...) The more you mean in the three essential pillars for Spain: the European Union, the United States and Latin America, the stronger your position will be.
The less you mean, the weaker your position will be. "
But
José María Aznar
sweated little or, at least, that's what he wanted it to look like.
And he had reasons to sweat because the
Jordi Évole
interview
left absolutely nothing in the pipeline.
And it was not only the questions that we all expected -
Gürtel
,
Bárcenas
, the
King Emeritus
,
corruption
,
ETA
,
11-M
, the
Iraq War
, the
bonuses
, the
wedding
... - it was all that each question brought with it.
Évole
asked,
Aznar
answered,
Évole
let him answer - this has rarely been seen -
Aznar
let him cross-examine, Aznar answered again, and the duel turned into combat, a fair fight, where there were no low blows, where there were no there were bad arts, where there was tension, a lot of tension, but a good combat worth its salt has to have it.
Two fighters who left the melee and who focused on what each had gone to do.
Évole
to ask everything that he had wanted to ask
José María Aznar for years
;
José María Aznar
in only one thing, in putting only his hand in the fire for him, and nothing more than for him.
Maybe 15 years ago if
Aznar
had sat down before
Jordi Évole,
his hand in the fire would have covered many and would have ended up burned.
Not now, now
Aznar
only puts his hand in the fire, but he puts it to the end.
There was not a single one of his responses in which the former Prime Minister recognized not a single error, not a single self-criticism, not a single apology.
And look,
Évole
tried, he wanted to corner him against the ropes, but the wolf knows more as an old man than as a wolf.
Only once, once and at the expense of that mythical phrase of "who told you the glasses of
wine
that I have or do not have to drink?", It seemed that
Évole
had caught
Aznar off
guard.
Not for those.
He said an "apologies" and if at that moment
Jordi Évole
had kept quiet, they would have been or it would have seemed that they were, but no, he asked and the answer disappeared: "I have not apologized, I have said that I am sorry".
He didn't need to say more.
Aznar's headline string in Lo de Évole
Lines and lines could be written from the interview today.
José María Aznar
left dozens and dozens of headlines, but always without the storm getting wet.
Always well covered by his hand in the fire and by the umbrella of that
"... but I'm still the king
.
"
11-M
: "The only instruction that those who had to receive received was to give all the information they have"
11-M
: "With a massacre of 200 deaths, not being a candidate for the elections, being in the equation of saying if it is ETA, some win, if it is not ETA, others win, because I sincerely believe that it was something that I did not It happened. I'm not saying it wasn't someone else's equation. What's more, it was someone else's equation, but certainly not mine. "
11-M
: "Those who did it had very detailed information from people who knew the terrain very well and what was happening in Spain."
11-M
: "When we have all that information in which all the services tell us that ETA has been, then
the Government came out saying that it was ETA
. I remember very well the voice of a person on a radio station saying that he had front a photo of the three ETA terrorists who had attacked in Madrid (...) Antonio García Ferreras ".
ETA
: "If all the criticism of my anti-terrorist policy is that once I spoke of the Basque liberation movement, which, by the way, is what many theorists and ideologists say that it exists ... A member of the Government no longer has to speak This is because the current government is responsible for making a pact with the heirs of the terrorists or with those who still justify terrorism. "
1-O
: "Whoever breaks the constitutional pacts must pay for the broken plates. Give a coup, the conclusion is that the coup plotters can walk freely in the street whenever they want."
King Juan Carlos
: "Apart from the episodes that are known
, he
has been a king incarnating the Crown of Spain, decisive for the historical progress of Spain
."
King Juan Carlos
: "His legacy from a political point of view is extraordinary and the mistakes that he may have made, well, in my opinion, they are regrettable, but they do not in any way tarnish or eliminate the possibility of praising that legacy (...) The King Emeritus is not accused of any crime. "
Abascal
: "I have not seen Abascal calling to set the streets on fire
,
or rob houses or squat properties or throwing cobblestones down the street (...) I don't like populisms, whether on the right or on the left."
Box B of the PP
: "I have not known such things. If I had known, I would have avoided them. The cases that I have known, I have corrected them in an absolutely drastic way
And, therefore, that some people may have committed some type of irregular action, it is possible, but that this extends to an entire organization, as it is intended, to continue making a kind of general cause against the PP it seems to me, absolutely unfair and unacceptable. "
The JM of the Bárcenas papers
: "In the headquarters of the PP everyone called me Josemari".
Married, Genoa and the PP: "In my life I have made quite a few changes. Some say that it is a matter of intelligence, others that it is sentimental, others that it is historical. I think it is a move (...)" The PP like all parties have their successes and their mistakes.
Another thing is to present the PP as a criminal organization.
Neither prosperity, nor democracy nor stability in Spain can be written without the PP and that is far above a concrete episode. "
His succession
: "When I left, I gave a party and a totally united electoral space. What happens next, ask those who come later."
The wedding
: "I am amazed that 20 years after celebrating a wedding people continue to talk about it. I think it is spectacular. It is the first time that the daughter of a Prime Minister has married. Everyone has the right to invite and organize the The wedding of your children that seems appropriate (...) Did you know that
Correa
and
El Bigotes
could end badly? I did not know them at all. They did not come from me. "
And we could continue putting quotation marks.
It could be said that the interview had two parts, a first in which
Aznar
was winning the fight by points and, a second, in which
José María Aznar
began to stagger on the ring.
It was at the moment that Évole began to ask about March
11
and about those three days in which "the main line of investigation" was always
ETA
.
If for the rest of the questions Aznar seemed to have been more than prepared for March
11
, after 20 years,
Aznar
still is not.
He tenses, he loses himself, he gets mixed up and, although he tries to maintain his truth - "My Government cannot be accused of not telling the truth" - with none of the rest of the questions, and see that they were more than uncomfortable, he tenses so much .
With none of the questions he was seen to sweat, with
11-M
he was seen wiping the sweat from his mustache that is no longer there.
It reminded me of that scene in A Few Good Men where Jack Nocholson snaps at a trembling Tom Cruise: "Do you want the truth? You can't bear the truth."
Later, it was difficult for him to get back into combat, but he succeeded.
He returned to
Aznar
from the beginning of the interview, to
Aznar
from
Yo, mi, me, with me
, al
Aznar
from
"... and my word is the law"
and if you don't like it, if you don't believe me, it's your problem, no yours.
"Collaborators very close to him in the second legislature have told me that he deified himself and that he was like an emperor,"
Évole
asked
.
"No, it is not true. And if he had, the facts deny it.
I do not know any living God or any endorsed man who has decided to leave
. He would have tried to continue to continue enjoying the endorsement."
And then, "what title would you give this interview?": "
Aznar
was fine
."
There is no further question, Your Honor.
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