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María Casado
and
Antonio Banderas
went to
El Hormiguero
last
night on the night their new project premiered on Amazon Prime,
Scene in Black and White
.
A colossal project, where art and artists are the thread that moves everything, and that seven months ago joined one of our most international and recognized actors, with a presenter
made in RTVE
.
The same seven months that this Tuesday,
María Casado
said goodbye to what was her home for 21 years.
21 years!
It is said soon, half life, and literal half life.
María Casado
left without making a sound, without saying a word louder than another, with an emotional but calm farewell.
Too many years for scandals, too much category and professionalism to mess it up.
Since then,
María Casado
has only explained occasionally how the dismissal was, but without making firewood from the fallen tree, without going into many details.
Last night in
El Hormiguero
, he was not going to give more details than necessary.
But there was a difference, the difference that time gives you, they say that everything heals.
Seven months has already been enough mourning and
María Casado
was finally going to tell her truth, the truth that sounds everywhere, but when someone who has been there, someone who has lived there, someone who has left there, it
stops being background noise to become reality
.
The truth is that the interview, despite the fact that it focused on the project that has brought her and
Antonio Banderas together
, began by warning that
María Casado was
not going to get rid of the rigorous question about her departure from
TVE
.
Normal.
María Casado
was
RTVE
and stopped being so overnight.
So as soon as they sat down after the applause and the rigorous reception,
Pablo Motos
reminded them that seven months ago the paths of
María Casado
and
Antonio Banderas
crossed, and it was she herself who said and "seven months that I said goodbye to
TVE
".
"That's why I have chosen this date," Motos replied, to which she, who knows about this for a while, replied with "if I already knew, that you don't do anything to do."
Smarter than hunger.
It was clear, and she was clear, that no one was going to get rid of the million dollar question.
I even think that
María Casado
came with the answer half prepared, with a correct answer, that it looked good, that she did not take her feet out of the pot, that she did not draw the spotlights towards her ... It was impossible because in the end you have to tell the truth and
What Maria Casado
had no intention of was to lie.
The union of María Casado and Antonio Banderas
But it was not going to be out of the blue, nor was it going to be the first question of the interview.
Pablo Motos
kept it for when both
María Casado
and
Antonio Banderas
were relaxed and had talked about their union and their project.
A project that, by the way, is incredible.
A project that, as
Antonio Banderas
revealed last night
, arose suddenly.
Although
María Casado
and the actor knew each other before, from a meal where they hit it off, in which "there was a connection", it was not until later that Antonio Banderas suddenly one day, while making a video call with his theater team , when the lightbulb went on.
"I was watching the news, I cut off the Zoom and called her," the actor explained.
"He asked me three questions: how are you? What happened? And can I call you in 5 minutes? Yes, of course, I told him, and although I thought he was not going to call me in 5 minutes he was already calling me" added
María Casado
.
"I am very impulsive and many of the decisions that have meant a lot in my life have been made at full speed. But I have always had a lot of admiration for her and when I met her I saw that there was a very interesting human being. I thought I had to have a person with whom she has lived, "confessed
Antonio Banderas
.
The actor was clear that to do the project he wanted to do and which is now becoming a monster of capital dimensions, he needed a professional and a person like
María Casado
.
Someone who knew television by heart, who knew, who would guide, and there she was, freshly fired from
TVE
and ready to embark on a project that at first she saw as impossible.
"After 5 seconds I said yes because life is not necessary to think about it so much (...) The first time he told me about this I told him 'it is impossible', and we raised it in 40 days," said
María Casado
.
And what they have built in 40 days is an absolute transformation.
The transformation of what we know as television, the transformation of what we know as theater, the transformation of what we know as a project, the transformation of what we know as a dream.
"We had not developed the television program, but it did make us think that we could get going. And it is not going to stay only in this. This
is only the vertex
. We are going to build another theater, we are going to build schools, school of voice, of scenography ... ", and it adds and continues.
Scenes and black and white
seems like a talk show, from you to you, but it is much more, it
is to return a format that had been lost
and create something new where the objective is to meet great stars of current Spanish music, but from the a way in which they have rarely been known.
But it is not just about knowing an artist, it is giving art the space it deserves, the place that it deserves, the importance that we should not forget.
- "How would you explain to a 9-year-old that art is essential?"
- "A 9-year-old boy is beginning to understand what that is.
What would the families have done if the confinement had not offered them programs, books, music
. A 9-year-old is already beginning to know what is essential."
Well that.
They are interviews with Spanish artists, but the essence, the soul of
Escenas en negro y blanco
is to give art the place it deserves.
"We have given them a space of freedom to talk about art and music. Everything that comes out is recorded absolutely direct, which was essential for us. That gives the program a very special character. It makes it unique", in the words of
Antonio Banderas
, who last night claimed that place with all the weight.
And for that he needed
María Casado
.
He put the idea machine to work and she, I get the feeling, was the one that gave it shape, the one that turned the idea and the dream into reality, into something tangible.
It was the best way out for a journalist who started at
RTVE
at the age of 21
, spent 21 years at
RTVE
and one day ... it was over.
María Casado and RTVE's "political toy"
"Today it was 7 months since you left
TVE
, how did they tell you that you
stopped
presenting La Mañana?"
Pablo Motos
changed third
.
The moment came, the moment that both
María Casado
and Pablo Motos knew was inevitable.
And as she knew, her answer was the same that she has given every time she has been asked about her departure from
RTVE
: "It was very normal, I have always explained it. You know that on TV there are always relays, that they put on, that they take away, that There are other bets for other people, and they told me that I was not going to continue. It was more natural and calmer than people can imagine. But yes,
after 20 years it is a shock
. It is many hours, a lot of dedication, but ... I have so many friends there. "
The expected.
His answer did not surprise anyone, it was the politically correct answer, the answer with which they try to remove iron from the matter because when someone in the house is dispensed with, someone who has grown up and has grown up there, they can be erased at a stroke. It is hard to believe and almost always becomes a kind of soap opera for internal consumption in which ghosts, betrayals, machinations and conspiracy are seen everywhere.
María Casado
has always made it clear that everything was very natural, that there was nothing strange, but it is hard to believe.
And since it was so restrained, so correct,
Pablo Motos
took advantage of the explanation of his departure to ask the question that for a long time - unfortunately - has been in the minds of many, if not all.
I am convinced that even in the heads of those who work at
RTVE
.
It is so obvious.
"I cannot help but ask you if we are talking about public television, if public television can be independent or as long as there are politicians who when they win the elections think they have been given a TV as a gift, that will be very difficult," asked
Pablo Motos
, from Those questions that he asks are answered by himself.
And that was the response of
María Casado
: "I think you have answered yourself."
He could have stayed there and made a Rafa Nadal, neither yes, nor no, but I say it all.
However,
María Casado
saw the opportunity: "I am hoping that all the radio and public television stations in this country and all its professionals, who are many, can work with that freedom outside of the political toy that for many has become."
Whoosh!
And he did not say anything new because what he said is a popular voice everywhere.
But
it is not the same when others say it as when someone who has spent 20 years of his life there says it
.
"And now I take a break for those who hurt," said Motos, who I think the sincerity of
María Casado
was not expected
, because it is rare, very rare, that such a professional from the house, so from public television has the courage and, above all, the desire not only to tell its truth but to show what we all see, but no one seems to dare to state.
The Goya, the "suicide" of María Casado and Antonio Banderas
And even so,
María Casado
will return to
TVE
, but will return with
Antonio Banderas
to commit suicide.
And it is that the two confirmed last night that they will be in charge of producing the
Goya 2021
gala
.
"We're going to kill ourselves,"
Banderas
said
, and he couldn't describe it better.
It goes without saying more, we all know what it means to present a
Goya
gala
, "or any gala", and what awaits them the day after.
Because as
Pablo Motos
said
, "people don't see the
Goya
gala
, people criticize the Goya gala."
But
María Casado
and
Antonio Banderas
accept it, in fact, it seems normal to them that it is criticized, it seems to them something good, something that is already totally linked to
the Goya
.
"It has been a very difficult year for all of us. For film people too. For us at this gala it is very important to make it clear that we, the directors, the actors are a very small part. That this world is very big, that there are carpenters , drivers ... And somehow pay tribute to what we have lost to what we have won this year. And it gives us the opportunity of a smaller, more humble, less Hollywood gala ", revealed
Banderas
on how they are organizing it.
Two greats from two very different worlds.
Two greats who crossed paths, met and have given each other a new opportunity and have given a new opportunity.
Because there is nothing like going out of your comfort zone to take the weight out of your backpack.
María Casado
, I think, took off the last burden last night, a burden that is not hers, a burden that
should weigh on who should really weigh
.
I have nothing more to add, Your Honor.
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