Interview

Tian Li: Shooting "He Shen" is like walking on tiptoe

　　The source of the evil water explosion has no cause and effect, Tianjin Wei suspected the case again, in 2017 a "Heshen" became a black horse with 8.2 points of Douban, "Heshen 2" returned in July this year, still a familiar taste, or the young director Tian Li s work.

　　In a field of artistic background, father and grandpa are painters. In the eyes of others when he was a child, he should of course inherit his father’s career on the road of painting, but he never learned to paint seriously. less". However, the term "family school" may be subtle. The representatives of the art class, the propaganda committee, and the blackboard newspaper are the main force.

　　The filmmakers generally start from falling in love with watching movies, and Tian is no exception. His pocket money in high school is basically used to buy CDs, and he has a sense of form. He has to buy a cassette; after reading, the whole Place them neatly on the shelf. Later, Tian Li learned from a sister that the admission exam for the director of the Film Academy, which performed performance, storytelling, and proposition writing, sounded like a selection of variety shows. Tian Li was suddenly attracted by this assessment that focused on comprehensive quality and literary literacy, and also made him have a director's dream for the first time in his life.

　　As expected, Tian Li was admitted to the director department of Beijing Film Academy. After graduating from undergraduate degree, he "experienced" two years of social life and returned to study for a master's degree. Before meeting "River God", Tian Li had done many "work types": shooting commercials, promotional videos, on the spot with the crew, and assistant director... Recalling that at the beginning, Tian Li did not feel hopeless and did not know why he would There is a kind of "honey confidence" and I believe that one day I will have the opportunity to independently direct a good work.

　　In 2015, the producer of "River God" found the field that was less than 30 years old at that time. Before that, he had few masterpieces. But having said that, don't look at "He Shen" is now hot, but it was also "lack of goodness" at the time-although the author is a famous tyrant in the world, this IP is far less well-known than "Ghost Blowing Lamp", and the male number one Li Xian also Far from "now boyfriend". Non-famous directors and non-famous actors shooting an online drama based on a non-famous novel. The off-site favorable factors are about equal to zero. The only thing that can work hard is the creation itself.

　　The producer gave Tian Li a lot of autonomy for the director. The script was overturned and rewritten. The actors tried one by one, and Tian had only one standard to make a good drama.

　　China Youth Daily · China Youth Daily: Do you have any preference for the subject matter?

　　Tian Li: I am more interested in genre films, and they are extreme. For example, horror movies will be especially scary, and comedy movies will make people laugh. I don't like semi-embarrassing things, such as "literature, science, education, comedy, love action film," and too many types.

　　China Youth Daily · China Youth Daily: What is the biggest difficulty in making extreme genre films?

　　Tian Li: There must be "fan children" in genre films. "Fan'er" is different from style. Style can be changeable, but "Fan'er" has a paradigm, and there are rules and regulations that govern you. Innovation in this frame is called innovation. "River God" is a detective drama in the Republic of China. Everyone watched a lot of dramas in the Republic of China. Most of them were wearing a cheongsam to fall in love and military uniforms to catch spies.

　　Tianxia Pahang is a native of Tianjin. During the writing process, he visited many older generations in Tianjin and collected many folklore and strange talks. To shoot the “fan” in the Republic of China in Tianjin, but it is not a historical drama based on textual research, just like walking on tiptoe, neither stepping on the ground step by step, nor flying completely off the ground, all legends have their origins, All the strange power chaos finally have a scientific explanation. This is the most difficult point for Fan Er in "River God".

　　China Youth Daily · China Youth Network: The first part of "River God" has won a win-win situation by word-of-mouth viewing. Will it be different to shoot the second part?

　　Tian Li: I definitely don’t want the first part of the second part to be the twenty-fifth part of the first part. I prefer the second part to be a brand new look. "River God 2" has taken a relatively big step, and also set a big game, the character relationship and character status have been changed. Perhaps the ambition is relatively large, and the whole world view has been expanded. If this series continues in the future, it will be possible to extend to any branch, and it is possible to pave the way for the "Heshen Universe" consciously.

　　In fact, I particularly like the series where each season is a different story, such as "Bloodstorm" and "True Detective", which look very different in appearance, but the temperament is consistent. It seems that one day, the story of "He Shen" does not happen in Tianjin. It is another 4 people. In another era, he took another adventure by the river, but the audience saw that it was "He Shen".

　　China Youth Daily·China Youth Network: Compared with when filming the first part, what are the favorable conditions for filming the second part?

　　Tian Li: The heat and expectation accumulated in the first part, let the "Heshen 2" start broadcasting, iQiyi heat broke 7000. Of course, this may not be a favorable condition, because when the audience has zero expectations for you, as long as you are slightly innovative and serious, it will be a surprise; and when you accumulate the next batch of loyal drama fans, you must continue to meet the expectations of the audience for 3 years, That would be too difficult. In addition, everyone's viewing quality is getting higher and higher, and they are more and more picky about the quality, which is not a small challenge for the director.

　　China Youth Daily·China Youth Network: The audience always gives a sequel that is not as good as the first one. What should the director do?

　　Tian Li: When I decided to shoot "He Shen 2", I expected such a result. The sequel is difficult, and the first successful sequel is even harder. This time, "River God 2" also faced many off-site factors, and had to face a lot of doubts not related to the creation. But I don’t feel regret, nor do I have any “early know” emotions. The second season is still the work I have done with all my heart and effort, and there is no difference from the first season. In creating this, I am afraid to question myself, as long as I have a clear conscience, it is not a failure.

　　China Youth Daily · China Youth Daily: Both of the "He Shen" are 24 episodes, do you have control over the length of the episode?

　　Tian Li: Generally speaking, there are 11 episodes in Japanese dramas, about 10 episodes in American dramas, and 3 episodes in English dramas. This is a law of creation-if you want a drama to be a boutique and have some unique temperament, it must be in a controllable system. Within the amount.

　　The short play must be a big trend, and the "walking" style of playing in the past with more episodes has been subverted. No matter the platform or the audience, the demand for high-quality content is increasing. "The Crime of Undocumented" is the earliest 12-episode short drama, and last year's "I am Yu Huan Shui", and now Iqiyi's "Mist Theater", this line, the effect is also very good. Next, in the creation of the series, I will also try to be as short as possible. I believe that as long as all the energy is returned to the creation, rather than flooding the pool, many problems and many criticisms will be solved.

　　China Youth Daily · China Youth Network reporter Jiang Xiaobin