El Hormiguero | Pablo Motos and the "fachas"

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If confinement and the state of alarm has done something, it is not only shutting ourselves in and submitting ourselves to a "new normal". The coronavirus health crisis , which at first seemed to have united us against a common enemy, now seems to have divided us even more than before. Everything is sparking and gives the feeling that it is best to keep quiet for not sinning. If anyone knows about this in the almost 80 days that we have been in alarm, that is Pablo Motos and El Hormiguero .

The presenter of El Hormiguero gets wounded as well as flattered. It could be said that the representation of the polarization that is being experienced. His program starts are praised at the same level as criticized; their banging on the Government and, especially, on Pedro Sánchez , are applauded by some and rejected by others; if he talks about the brain, experts condemn him and others boast about him; if he talks about the coronavirus, they love him or hate him.

But none of this, even when they waited for him at the doors of his house to photograph him without a mask, has made Pablo Motos remain silent. If he has to lash out at the Government, which is the most common, he lashes out, and if he has to talk about "façades", he does so while being fully aware of the one that is going to fall on him. "Do you listen? Do you hear that silence? It's the thousands of tweets that are writing saying that we are fascists," he joked last night. Not everyone could bear to be in the spotlight every day. It gives me who already lives with it, like the one

It is true that the coronavirus , the management of the pandemic and, especially, Pedro Sánchez have become an obsession for the presenter. But who are they not for? Entering social networks is like immersing yourself in a constant battle. Those on one side, those on the other, those who love Pablo Motos, those who hate him. There is for everyone. And he has continued doing what he has considered at every moment. If days before the state of alarm was declared, he was crucified and accused of being an alarmist for saying that the thing was very serious and that it should not be taken lightly, days after and for many days after, the presenter had not missed the opportunity to expose the errors of the government, the president, the political class, and even the experts. It has been expensive, very expensive, but it has also brought applause from many. Polarization .

A polarization that being aware of it did not intimidate him. His Tailor-made Anthill for the state of alarm has discovered a Pablo Motos that goes far beyond interviews with guests every day. There has been humor, there has been criticism, there have been unthinkable confessions a few months ago ... And it has also brought about that polarization which, last night, by Santiago Segura , both described on the program.

"Now you say 'good morning' and they already call you facha" , Pablo Motos started one of the blocks from the table of his collaborators after Cristina Pardo, he and Santiago Segura commented on the document that was revealed this Tuesday and that proved the lie by the Interior Minister, Fernando Grande-Marlaska , on the dismissal of Pérez Cobos. Because there has been no stick, controversy or situation that has not been dealt with in El Hormiguero since the state of alarm was declared. He already said it when the photographs were taken leaving his house without his mask (when they were still not mandatory), nobody was going to shut him up.

The presence of Santiago Segura last night in El Hormiguero augured a new controversy or, at least, a highly anticipated response since a few days ago the actor and director was immersed in a good mess on social networks by a tweet in which he asked " concord, understanding and harmony. " " What sadness that Spain of faces and reds, of bad and good , of extreme fascist right or Bolivarian Bolsheviks. Flags, hymns, saucepans, fratricidal hatred and perpetual bad vibes. Concord, understanding, harmony ... They still sound like decaf, but they are necessary words ", wrote Segura, without being aware of the puddle in which he was going to get into.

It was clear that neither the director nor the presenter were going to miss the opportunity to respond during prime time to those who called him "facha" and to those who called him "equidistant", among many other things. And I ask myself a question, how terrible is the tweet that Santiago Segura wrote? Are we really at that point that you are on one side or the other or should you be condemned to the stake? The same is that I am very simple, that I am, but in a situation like the one we are living, that someone asks for concord seems to me much more logical and reasonable than asking that we all hate each other. As Pablo Motos said last night, " Is there anything less democratic that you cannot comment on? (...) turning a person who thinks differently from you into your enemy is a very big leap".

And reason is not lacking to either of them. Both have been described as "fronts" , one for their constant criticism of the government and the other for asking for agreement and placing the extreme right and extreme left in the same bag of discord and tension. "Now, as you say 'good morning', they already call you facha. Either you agree with the government or you are a facha. There is no intermediate term. It is an insult that works very well. Because if you are a Democrat and they call you a facha, it hurts you ", sentenced Pablo Motos, whom they label as the same as the lover of the left, according to what he said the night before. As his criticisms of Sánchez and the Government have become our daily bread, Pablo Motos and the "fachas" were the daily songs that the presenter had to face in the morning, in the afternoon, and in the evening. Sticks on one side, sticks on the other . The same ones he releases are also true.

Pablo Motos did not deny that there is "fear" , that he is "afraid", "afraid to speak" because "we are living a level of insults, not only in Congress, but in life in general that, right now, anyone who absolutely not agree with everything the government says is a facha. " Because there has been an insult that has been repeated more and is repeated around Pablo Motos , it is indeed the one on the front. And it is true that what was experienced by Motos and Santiago Segura is far away. One is called facha because his obsession with the Government and Sánchez is a daily constant, while Santiago Segura is called "facha" or "equidistant" because he does not position himself either on one side or the other.

"Not agreeing with someone creates a very awful climate. I think that this civil war we are suffering now ... I do not want to think about the good and the bad . Of course there are people better than others and very dodgy people, but it is that all We are in the same boat. The tweet that I put asked for a little concord, dialogue ... ", explained Santiago Segura. "You are looking for it", Pablo Motos put a little humor, in a reality that has little humor.

"Ever since I was little, the rights have always made me a little grim because the right has always told you what you have to read, how you have to be dressed, what you have to do, so that bothers me a little. tell me how I have to think. That's why calling me a facha seems terrible to me. They leave you like the rabbits that go out on the highway and give them the light, and you stay like that. They have called me facha or fascist, which is worse, than Fascist is an illegal thing, or Nazi ... It is a terrible thing, "argued Santiago Segura. And probably because of these words those who called him facha for his tweet a few weeks ago, today will remain silent, and those on the other side, today are calling him a communist or Bolshevik. And so every day, and so every time someone positions himself, and so every time someone thinks differently.

Because as they both said last night, the worst thing you can do is insult or attack someone because they think differently than you. " With how great it is to be able to dialogue, converse and argue with someone who thinks differently from you," insisted Santiago Segura. Well now that is almost a miracle or a privilege that perhaps only a few have. It seems that there is so much hatred accumulated, so much anger, so much desire for anger that it is not strange that characters like Pablo Motos or Santiago Segura feel fear. Surely, most of us are exhausted and weary of that "war-civilism" of which Santiago Segura spoke . Yes, you can express your opinion freely, but watch the consequences. It is a seed that has been germinating for a long time, taking root, that has never stopped growing, and that now expands like an ivy that covers everything. He who thinks differently is either a "facha" or a "communist" and at the stake . That I'm not saying that the world should be the world of love bears and rainbows, but neither should it be a world full of anger and hatred.

"They said in situations of oppression if you are neutral you are with the oppressor. And I thought, but if I have not said anything, I have only said that we do not give in to the host, please, that we agree , that we are all in the same boat, and we are going to row and shrink. They gave birth to me, "continued Santiago Segura . And actually it was like that. Santiago Segura's tweet , even citing the extreme right and the extreme left, only asked that we not throw the junk at our heads. Ha! Santiago Segura asked a lot. If by a tweet like this the one that fell, imagine when someone stops being neutral and positions himself on one side and the other. But if we see it every day. In Congress, in the press conferences of politicians, in interviews, in statements, there is one in everything, or you are on one side or you are on the other. And yes, it is scary, very scary, fear that goes beyond whether they call you one thing or call you another, fear that we all believed that the coronavirus crisis was going to make us better and what it has done is face us even more. Yes, you can think differently, but don't say it.

"It seems exaggerated to me. I call for harmony, for concord. Yes, you can disagree strongly with people, but I think that even our politicians do not set an example , both of them. They have to tone down if they want that this gets somewhere. " How right is Santiago Segura ! As Pablo Motos added, if the citizen sees that those who represent us, those who have to set an example, those who are all day in the media are disqualifying themselves and lashing out at each other in ways that border on madness, what will the citizen do. We end up seeing it as something normal and what has to be normal we end up seeing it as almost a sin. Who was going to say to Santiago Segura that by asking everyone to row in my direction, hosts would fall like loaves of bread? Well this is also the "new normal".

And the worst thing is that we end up getting used to it, we end up seeing as normal that if you criticize the government you are a "facha" and if you criticize the right you are a shitty communist. It is clear that each one belongs to his father and mother and that each one will have his ideology and beliefs, but what makes us a society, what humanizes us, what rationalizes us is to build bridges that help us reach the goal. And what is the goal now? Exit it. To hosts it is clear that it will be very difficult .

Maybe we should all do a little self - criticism and think about whether we help the fire to catch fire, or maybe, in fact, what we should start asking ourselves is that we have to respect each other. The fact that Pablo Motos gives the government a hard time every day does not mean that it is a façade, but rather, among the anger that he has with Sánchez for not attending the last two electoral interviews that were made with all the leaders in El Anthill , and that there really are things that are hard to believe, because his reasoning and his opinion are just as respectable as those who believe that everything is being done well.

Because yes, Pablo Motos gives a few blows to the Executive and the Chief Executive who trembles the mystery and it may seem very heavy, and you may think that the album is scratched, and that it could change repertoire, but it is his opinion, it is his program and the more you give it the more it will do, I am convinced. That is to say, neither so much nor so bald. That is to say, that equidistant or "equidistantísimo", like Santiago Segura . "Facha" or fachísimo, like Pablo Motos . In short, that we continue to be able to comment without having our heads cut off.

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