There will be no peace for Pablo Casado in El Hormiguero

• El Hormiguero.La "movida" by Santiago Abascal and Pablo Motos
• MomenTVs.Íñigo Errejón, the 'sicario' of El Hormiguero

Pablo Motos has taken the electoral interviews in El Hormiguero as the speaker of tiredness and laziness, first of him, and after millions of citizens who are until the very same that the politicians of this country are unable to reach an agreement to forming a government and voting is already like signing at work. So, the sweet interviews - for some - of the previous elections are over. Now, politician who steps on El Hormiguero , politician who goes scalded.

There are some who save the face better than others - right Santiago Abascal? -; there are others who cling to their arguments and do not move even half a hair and then there is Pablo Casado. Pablo Casado has gone from being an ogre to being Pedro's grandmother , Heidi's, let's not get confused with Pedro.

Since the beard has been left, apparently because he leaves it every summer and this time he was caught by the investiture of Díaz Ayuso with it on and generated such a stir that he has decided to keep it, Pablo Casado is the man who builds bridges, the man able to reach agreements right and left, the man who gets along with all political leaders and all political formations come from wherever they come, the man who if next 10-N takes a seat more than Pedro Sánchez is clear that "We form Government . "

With such sweetness, with such good vibes in the ranks of the PP, no matter how much Pablo tries to alter him, he continues in his "grandfather tell me, what sounds are those that I hear" . And it won't be because Pablo Motos didn't try it from the beginning. The presenter's weapon last night had (and has) name and surname: Santiago Abascal. Whenever Motos wanted to put Casado on a break, Casado walked through the branches or got into rally mode, Pablo Motos took the Abascal whip for a walk .

• "You won't have left your beard because they told you that you looked like Albert Rivera."
• "No, not what goes."
• "Let's see if you're going to look like Santiago Abascal now."

Come on, let the game begin. Well, this comment that may seem like the typical click to tear and break the ice to an interview that is never easy for either the interviewee or the interviewer, was the constant of the entire interview. Pablo Motos was clear that it was not going to be a sweet interview , nor was Abascal's; That it is over to give truce, to play the guitar, that you have been unable to agree and now it is time to give you the cane you deserve .

The moderation of Pablo Casado

So Pablo Motos began with the beard and followed by the change of Pablo Casado in terms of his speech, at that step from the outbursts and direct attacks on moderation that Pablo Casado has sworn to maintain. That is, from Dr. Jeckyll to Mr. Hyde . "There is no change here. There were two circumstances in April, that I was very angry and that the party was not well valued by the citizens and I had to do many rallies and it is a format that makes you raise your voice and it seemed that it was very pissed off" . What a man, now it's the fault of the rallies that make you drop real barbasadas! That of mea culpa as it is not for these gentlemen.

Next, the 66 deputies achieved by the PP in the May elections. Oh, how Motorcycle likes to rummage through the wound! "The 66 deputies was an electoral coup and I already said it on election night . " And sanseacabó, to see if it was believed Motos that Casado was going to squash the door to get into the kitchen. "If you get the same thing do you plan to resign?" Motos asked. "We are not going to get 66 deputies. We are getting closer to the PSOE and with one more seat we form government ." A lot has to run Motorcycles to catch a politician.

And since Pablo Motos could not find any gap that would knock down Casado's wall, he returned to the only thing that seemed to make him stagger: Vox. Uuuuuuhhhh! "Do you think you are going to recover Vox votes?" , the presenter asked, to which Casado responded without mentioning the bicha: "We are recovering a lot of citizens' vote."

Where do you come from, I bring apples

"You like Cs, but Cs don't like you," ... and the blows keep falling. "We have reached many agreements and it is with the party with which we are ideologically closer. But if Sánchez with 123 deputies failed to form a government and preferred to go to elections what will happen to Spain now that they give him less." Where do you come from, apples I bring.

Responses like this are what made the visit of Santiago Abascal to the program, the Vox leader emerged victorious from one more hard interview. While Abascal answered with his truth and without betraying his convictions, whether we like it or not , Married (and so do many others) respond by making the partridge dizzy , without saying the clear things, without answering what they are asking you. Why? Abascal said it in his interview, they represent those who think like him and are not scratching votes. That is, if they are voted 1,000, then 1,000 and if they are 4,500, then much better. However, parties like the PP, like the PSOE, and even as Cs, seek to scratch votes to the desperate and that leads them to navigate between two waters and in the end the result is that the voter does not believe even half of what they count

The interview continued to draw colors to the inability of our policies to sit down and reach agreements. Pablo Motos had no hair on his tongue when asked if it was true that the rumors suggest that in the end all this will end with a great coalition between the PP and the PSOE as a few weeks ago the former leaders of both parties pointed out, Felipe González and Mariano Rajoy According to Casado, no.

"The problem is that Sánchez wants a great coalition leaving We and Vox out and we have to be the alternative in case that PSOE and Cs government fails. The PP cannot facilitate a Pedro Sánchez Government with the program it has. that in Spain the alternation between two parties is good ". Of course, of course, there are no parties that can take away votes or alternatives ... It's called despair.

"Or you should all leave and others come who can agree . " Zas! The blow must have been heard even in Genoa street, Ferraz street, Galapagar and Alcala street. And it is not new, since Pablo Motos released Íñigo Errejón the same , but Errejón knew how to use it to sell. I don't know how many times they were not going to do what Pablo Iglesias did and that they were going to agree with Sánchez. Married knew how to get out of the mess and almost, almost dodged the coup: "Or even if a person who has not had the opportunity to negotiate to form a government, with a seat would." Oh, what a nightmare with the seat!

The ghost of Vox

Motorcycles insisted and insisted again. It looked like a remake of There will be no peace for the wicked. The presenter wanted to hunt him, he wanted to catch him, he wanted Pablo Casado to answer once and for all the question he has been asked since before the May elections and from which he always runs away and escapes as he can: "The polls say Vox will overcome to Cs, would you accept Vox ministers? " And again throwing balls out: "They have already said no, so it is very easy. The important thing is that we have been able to agree left and right without losing our program. We have shown that we are able to agree with everyone" . And the mule come to the wheat. What do you answer, please, that Motos is going to give a hoot !

"Would you agree with Vox?" He returned to the charge in the last question of the interview. "We aspire to govern. And they have already said no. My preferred partner is CS," again. "Don't you answer me because if you say Vox you lose votes?" Pablo, please answer him, tell him the truth. "You can't stand the truth," Casado failed to shout, who cut the issue with a "I can't hide that my preference is citizens." In other words, we still don't know if Casado wins the elections what he will do with Vox, because if you say Vox three times looking at you in the mirror, the murderous girl appears.

Motos wanted to talk about the exhumation of Francisco Franco and Casado preferred to talk about the future. Motos wanted to talk about how they are going to achieve the tax reduction they have promised when even Brussels is saying that whoever arrives in Moncloa will have to cut 6,600 million euros and Casado preferred to talk about him promising to lower taxes and will lower them, not like Rajoy who promised to lower taxes and later recognized that he had raised them. Married wanted to talk about when the crisis comes the best match is the PP and that people think about who helps them reach the end of the month, who revalues ​​pensions, who took them out of the previous crises, and Motos wanted to talk about Aznar took us to war . Married wanted to talk about the PP "has done well when he has ruled" and Motos wanted to talk about corruption . And so all night, like a game of ping pong.

It was only with Catalonia when Motos left Casado to explain everything he wanted, Casado accepted the glove. He severely criticized Pedro Sánchez and accused him of ruling by a coup. "Sanchez has not been up to par. We have been with Catalonia on fire, where he has been taken by the kale borrokas and has not done anything . I ask Sanchez that we do all go together, but something must be done (. ..) We have only asked to break the 140 agreements that he has in 40 municipalities with Torra and Junqueras (...) Sánchez was harder when the polls gave him 140 seats to see if he rose to 150 and now he softens because they give him less (...) If there is a president who depends on the votes of the nationalists, the situation will get worse. " After, after!

And it is Casado is clear that the first thing he would do in Catalonia would be "to apply the National Security Law so that there are not 280 policemen who have been injured. And then he would do, once the illegality has stopped, see how to get out of this quagmire. " Hala, now you go and hull it!

The interview ended with the non-response to its possible agreement with Vox. Motos had no choice but to settle and give up, but Casado didn't have the truce he might have expected. None will find this time in El Hormiguero the peace they wanted . The one who warns is not a traitor.

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