Explorer and researcher Christian Clot believes that the French have the resources to not only get through the health crisis, but also to build a more desirable future by drawing on their individual will.

He calls, at the microphone of Europe 1, for more optimism and adaptation.

INTERVIEW

How will society be able to bounce back from the coronavirus crisis?

Christian Clot, explorer-researcher and author of 

Covid, and after?

(editions Michel Lafon), advocates optimism.

After isolating himself in several extreme regions of the world, he calls on the French not to underestimate their capacities.

"We have extraordinary resources and we must go and find them," said Chistian Clot at the microphone of Europe 1.

"We may have forgotten to tell the French that OK, we are going through a very difficult period, but that it is possible to project ourselves and to want the future. And we see it today, people do not no longer want the future ".

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Extreme experiences

In 2016 and 2017, Christian Clot launched a mission whose code name is "Adaptation", during which he left, for 120 days, to discover extreme climatic environments, such as the Sahara desert, the tropical forest, the polar environment or even Patagonia.

“The idea was really to see in the most extreme environments, at the most extreme moment,” explains Chistian Clot.

All without assistance or even means of communication.

"In these situations, we can't say to ourselves 'ah well hey, it's not going, I'm calling my friends, they are coming to get me'. Because that's too easy. When you're in a crisis, we cannot press a button for it to stop. We have to accept to exceed our abilities, "he explains.

An experience that he parallels with the coronavirus crisis.

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The different stages of this study on human behavior, which he defines as very serious, were interspersed with reviews in France.

"We had to be able to parameterize my brain since that's what we were trying to study. So doing MRIs before and after, so that we could see the difference. This observed difference is motivated by, among other things, the capacity for wonder, which induces that we will cling to a positive element and stop wanting to go back. And that is what we must do today. from the future".

"Change of paradigm"

Such a way of thinking implies a form of letting go: we must give up modifying what we have no influence on.

"You have to be like, 'OK. I can't have control over the vacuum. I can't have control over the situation, but I have control over my decisions.'

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Christian Clot recommends looking for an "Ephiphany".

"It's that moment when, all of a sudden, we have something that makes us happy. It may be minimal, a detail, but we can metabolize it to say to ourselves: 'I'm going to go get this every day and again and again '. Today, we know how to train people to transform their brains and change their paradigms ", indicates Christian Clot, before concluding:" We must transform our worlds and our societies to build a future. 'is adaptation. "