Shortly after accessing the general secretariat of the PSOE, I had the opportunity to present the current acting president, Pedro Sánchez, on the occasion of his participation in the necessary Spain cycle, promoted by EL MUNDO. In that November 2015, he smiled and told me: "You have to see what has changed our lives." I nodded politely, as I slipped: "To some more than the other." Tacitly, we remembered the times we had agreed in the studies of Veo7. He was one of the commissioners

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