The stimulus plan developed by the government to redress the French economy, estimated at 100 billion euros, was presented on Thursday.

From this budget, 35 billion euros are mobilized to support the competitiveness of companies.

Should we ask them for compensation?

Thomas Porcher and Philippe Manière discussed it on Europe 1. 

The government presented Thursday a plan costing 100 billion euros, supposed to revive the French economy hit by the health crisis.

Companies are the big winners: 35 billion euros are allocated to them to support their competitiveness.

An understandable choice, greet specialists Thomas Porcher and Philippe Manière.

But should we, in return, ask for guarantees from companies, particularly in terms of job preservation, or ecological transition?

Opposed on the subject, they discussed it Thursday on Europe 1.

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Yes, we need counterparts for Thomas Porcher, member of the collective Les economistes atterrés

"The state cannot be just an insurer, you need counterparts. The state is everyone's money. Of course, companies had to be helped, they are suffering a shock. But we need counterparts because we can not only bet with French money.

Because how are we going to repay this plan?

Not with additional tax.

We will repay it with growth, says the government.

But if there is no growth, what will happen?

As in 2011, we will take the turn of austerity.

We are going to take public spending and make cuts, as we have already done, in the hospital budget or in education.

I am not sure that is the solution.

Because if we were little prepared for the Covid-19, it is in part because there had been drastic cuts, especially in the hospital. "

No, it is not necessary for Philippe Manière, president of the consulting firm Vae Solis

"I can see why we are tempted to say 'we give you money, put it to good use'. The truth is that a business leader does what he can, he does not. He never takes pleasure in dismissing or not recruiting. But he will not refrain from dismissing to please the public authorities. He optimizes his means of production, and from time to time, that means recruiting. From time to time, that means not recruiting or even firing.

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The idea for this plan, as for all plans of this type, is to say that we will meet the conditions for companies to be better.

That they are therefore more able to recruit and less in a situation to lay off.

As for public spending, if we look at the subject, we see that France is the only country where it has never stopped increasing.

We can always say that we can do more.

But when you're already the country with the most public spending in the world, the idea that you need to do more seems hard to defend. "